Welcome And The Moment We’re In

Rick Green 0:07

Welcome to the intersection of Faith and Culture. Thanks for joining us today on the WallBuilder show, taking on the hot topics of the day from a biblical, historical, and constitutional perspective. Rick Green here with David and Tim Barton. And uh we're, you know, I think we're getting our legs under us, guys. I think, you know, the more people I talk to, the less they sound depressed, and they're starting to go, okay, okay, we're listening to you guys on WallBuilders, and you're telling us duty is ours, you know, get out there and do your duty, regardless of the results of the election. And they're starting to find their way back into the fight, if you will. Um, you know, I think that's one of the great things wall builders has always done so well is win or lose. Uh we we just stay, you know, stay in the fight. So um, how about you guys? Y'all are y'all have had another day out there to talk to people and kind of get a feel from them. Are they starting to get over the you know, lick their wounds and then get back in?

Perseverance When People Want Out

Tim Barton 0:54

Well, I I'm seeing it across the board, and unfortunately, um there definitely are some people that are blackpilling that that are feeling like they should just disengage. It doesn't matter, they don't want to be a part anymore. And I it does make me wonder, uh, obviously, as we study history, we can look at American history, and that's usually where we spend most of our time. But I I even think of of Bible history time because we are living in an era of Bible history, we just don't necessarily know exactly those details. I feel like we're probably uh, you know, somewhere in the Revelation era, but we don't nobody knows for sure. But with that being said, guys, it does make me wonder do you think the early church uh got discouraged and they're like, man, is this gonna pan out? Like, I is this is this gonna carry on? Will people know? I I just wonder if in some of those cycles of persecution, uh, if obviously they they had seen the resurrection or they had learned and heard the stories, and they were locked in on their faith and they weren't gonna go anywhere. But I do wonder if in their head they're like, man, you know, this the here in Rome or wherever it might be, depending on the time of history, they don't get it. Uh, we're just, you know, we're dying for something that we know is true and we believe in. But yeah, I I I don't think that they could have foreseen what God was gonna do through their life and testimony and how it was gonna reach people. But but looking around now, seeing people that are frustrated, discouraged, that are wanting to check out, it does make me wonder is this how some of the early church felt? Uh and so maybe not just learning from American history, maybe learning from like Bible history in this moment. Uh, I I I I'm gonna have to process some of that to try to help some of these people that are just wanting to check out. Again, black pilling, they're they're frustrated, they're discouraged. And that's not most people I talk to, but I'm seeing it from some people that I feel like should have known better. So it does make me wonder, you know, what would have what would have been the encouragement? And then of course we can go and read in the Pauline epistles and know exactly what Paul told believers to not check out, to don't get discouraged, to run with perseverance, the race that is set before you. Uh, it just does make me wonder, though, knowing we're living in some kind of Bible times, um, what that challenge and thought would be.

SPEAKER_02 3:06

You know, the the Bible talks about what the fruit of the Spirit is, and it talks about the characteristics we're to have as Christians. And one of those characteristics is perseverance. And I have not seen an escape clause anywhere in the Bible that perseverance doesn't apply to certain aspects of life, but it does to others. And so why people would want to check out of perseverance, well, I don't like politics. Well, it doesn't matter whether you like it or not, the the fruit of the spirit is perseverance. And you don't just because you like it, check out if it's something that God has ordained, which we know Genesis 9 he has. This is his institution. So it's one of the things that I I think is gonna help, I really think it's gonna help with some spiritual maturity decisions. People are gonna have some decisions to make or if they're gonna do this, and and we're already talking about how we're seeing a lot of spiritual growth across the nation and pastors stepping up more than we've ever seen. And so I think that the tone is right, and I think that this may be an excellent opportunity. So I do think that that the the fruits of the spirit and other other things the Bible teaches about part of the Christian life, I think people are are gonna have to figure out that, you know, this applies to every aspect of my life, not just the stuff I like and enjoy, not just the stuff that that is positive, but even the the stuff where I lose occasionally or I don't do as well as I want to, I still got to have the same attitude. It's not whether you win or lose, it's the attitude you have conducting that and whether you're engaged, well done, good and faithful servants, not good and successful servant. And so I think that's something that's gonna be coming out in the church and in in coming days, I think, and across the next year or two, I think we'll see more of it.

Rick Green 4:39

Well, I I know I see it in our in our guests that we're gonna have when we come back from the break. He's been uh doing this in Alaska and win or lose, he stays in the fight. And uh we we don't even know if they've went won or lost in Alaska yet. You you said it last week, David, we won't know for a couple of weeks from the crazy Alaska uh ranked choice voting thing. But uh Lauren Baxter is our special guest today. He's the super coach for WallBuilders and Patriot Academy, duh that takes all of our materials and has taught them to tons of people in Alaska, and he's gonna be here with us on the program when we return from the break. You're listening to the WallBuilders show. Hey

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Rick Green 5:13

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Meet Alaska Coach Lauren Baxter

Rick Green 6:16

Welcome back to the intersection of Faith and Culture. Thanks for staying with us here on the WallBuilders program. Special guest today, Super Coach. We got a few of our Constitution coaches around the country we call super coaches because of how much they do and to do it up in the uh where God's frozen people are. Lauren Baxter, my buddy from Alaska. Hey, brother, thanks for being in the studio with me today. It's great to be here, Rick. Man, I am so thankful for you. I'm telling you, you've done so many classes, got put so many people through the program, and you're always an encouragement. I I love seeing you uh every chance I get to visit with you. Um, it's just it's great to have you on the Patriot Academy team. And I thought it'd be fun to just kind of get your story as a coach, kind of how you got started doing this and getting other people excited because I think this is the answer. I think we've got to do more of this. These election results obviously were terrible, and people are like, oh, it's all over. No, no, no. We're gonna keep doing the same thing we were doing. We're just gonna tenfold it. We're gonna do even more. And so really just wanted to have you on to talk about Constitution coaching, how you got started, and what you've seen, how it's made a difference in your church and in your state.

SPEAKER_03 7:17

Well, I got got started originally. Uh I would when we changed churches because one of our the church we were going to would not take a stand politically. And we thought it was really uh critical that especially during some of the critical elections that were local where we lost school board seats by just a couple hundred votes, the uh one church could have made a difference.

Rick Green 7:40

Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 7:40

And our church at the time could have made a difference.

Rick Green 7:42

So they were they were being sugary and dull instead of salty and bright.

SPEAKER_03 7:46

Exactly. So we searched around and we found another church and they were very much engaged. And then uh we had a a great mentor, his name was uh Brian Menster, who's now a uh senior vice president at Liberty University that was familiar with wall builders and a lot of that stuff. Yeah. And uh he ended up sponsoring a class we called it uh Foundations of Freedom, nice uh before the 2022 election. Yeah, and it went really well. Uh we actually had uh Pastor Rob McCoy by Zoom, we had Kirk Cameron, we had uh Charlie Kirk by Zoom, Rob McCoy, I mean calling into our church on a Wednesday night. Yeah. But uh anyway, he ended up said getting hired by Liberty University, and our pastor challenged me. He goes, What could we do to get people more engaged? And I told him I'd pray about it. And it turned out I was down in Seattle for uh hip resurfacing operation and I was watching the flashpoint, and this guy named Rick Green was on it.

Rick Green 8:56

Why would you watch him? I don't know what you were thinking.

SPEAKER_03 8:58

He was talking about this through this program, it was relatively new, uh, called Biblical Citizenship. And I thought, huh. I wonder if that would be uh if that would meet what our pastor was talking about. So I uh sent myself an email to remind me when I got home, and I called a friend of mine in Colorado and just mentioned to him, yeah, our pastor uh challenged me to come up with something. He goes, You ought to do what they're doing in our church, is called biblical citizenship. And I go, Okay, God, that's a hint. And then I look look up you know Patriot Academy, and it's based at that time in Dripping Spring, Texas. My brother-in-law, my only brother-in-law, lives in Dripping Spring, Texas.

Rick Green 9:41

So you're like, one, two, three citizens all at once. So God, that that's a hint.

SPEAKER_03 9:45

Enough fleeces, I know I'm supposed to do this. So I uh we ordered the DVDs, we watched them and said, wow, this is great. Went to my pastor. Uh, we were fairly new at the church at that time, and they said, go for it. Turned us loose, and we've been doing biblical citizenship classes ever since then. I think we've done, I don't know, eight or nine biblical citizenship classes, probably about a civil number of rebuilding liberty. We've also done campaign coach classes.

Rick Green 10:13

Now, for people that don't know anything about any of these classes, what happens when you when you do a biblical citizenship class?

SPEAKER_03 10:18

Well, I think what was what it what it really is encouraging is it wakes people up. They start realizing what the foundation of our country is, you know, and what it was based on.

Rick Green 10:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:30

And uh I think it really, well matter of fact, some of our first classes, there was uh I get an email saying, I've always voted, but I've never gotten involved politically. But since this class, I've been out door knocking, wow, phone banking, and waving signs, you know, so it's really transformed people. Nice. Matter of fact, just recently when door knocking for Senator Dan Sullivan, the real one, not Decoy Dan in Alaska, and probably half the people there had been through my class.

Rick Green 11:02

Man, that's incredible. So you so and so that's not just from your church, then you're reaching people outside your church.

SPEAKER_03 11:08

No, matter of fact, uh, I think we figured it out at one point that we had about uh 30 different churches that have participated.

Rick Green 11:16

No kidding.

SPEAKER_03 11:17

And we've also helped uh probably I don't know, maybe eight or ten other churches we've helped with classes at those, probably more than that.

Rick Green 11:26

Yeah. And and you've I I know when I came out there and you had me out uh to y'all's church, you introduced me to so many people that have been through the class and were also really active. I mean, in in terms of winning, you know, Republican Party positions, uh Congress, I mean all kinds of things.

SPEAKER_03 11:41

Right.

When Constitution Knowledge Changes Outcomes

SPEAKER_03 11:42

One of my one of my favorite stories is with our congressman Nick Begage, who just is uh freshman in Congress. He just finished up and he's looks like he's gonna be re-elected uh for a second term. But we invited him to my class, to my classes. He came to one, it was the fifth class, which actually happens to be airing tonight on your uh uh called uh Who Has Authority? Yeah. And it was all scheduling. We had not planned it per se, except for what would fit in his campaign schedule.

Rick Green 12:15

But he's running for Congress. He's running for classes.

SPEAKER_03 12:20

Right, Who Has Authority? And I was sitting there thinking, wow, I had not planned this, but this is like a God ordained divine appointment.

Rick Green 12:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 12:27

Divine appointment. So turns out a month later, Byron Donalds is doing a fundraiser for him in Florida. At the time, Byron Donald was the only member of Congress endorsing him. Afterwards, they're invited over to Marilago. But a bunch of senators and congressmen are there. Senator Mike Lee from Utah is there.

Rick Green 12:46

Great senator.

SPEAKER_03 12:47

Right. And he walks up to Nick. He goes, I hear you're running for Congress. And Nick goes, Yeah. His first question is, What do you think about Article I, Section 8, the Commerce Clause? And that was covered in our class. So Nick goes, Well, they've overstepped their boundaries. It's been misapplied. A lot of the responsibilities should lie with the states. And Mike Lee looks at him, he goes, You're the first person that's ever been able to answer that question. And then he looked back at his wife, I guess, and looked at Nick and goes, I've never done this before, but I'm endorsing you on the spot.

Rick Green 13:21

Wow, man, that's incredible. And so he ends up winning. Yep.

SPEAKER_03 13:24

He ends up winning. And but as a matter of fact, he is he's he's a phenomenal guy.

Rick Green 13:30

And he read something with him recently. I remember you sending me pictures.

SPEAKER_03 13:33

What were you at what was well actually he came to our we did a big event for the 250th. Yeah, that's right. That's right. So he was there. Plus, we also had uh uh Speaker Mike Johnson come up to Alaska.

Rick Green 13:45

Nice, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:45

So we see him all the time.

Rick Green 13:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:47

And uh I said he's he's a great friend, but he's he's a great patriot, really a statesman, and he has actually passed, I believe it's 11 or 12 bills out of the out of the house, and I think seven or eight have been signed by the president. So he has passed more legislation than any freshman senator in the history of Congress.

Rick Green 14:11

Wait, now and a house member or a senate member. This is a house member. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, okay, so that that that's a congressman. Um, what about local office? How how important has has you know coaching biblical citizenship classes and the other ones?

SPEAKER_03 14:23

Well, we've we've had a number of people that have actually took our campaign class that have run for local office. Unfortunately, they have not been successful yet.

Rick Green 14:32

Yeah, I like that word.

SPEAKER_03 14:33

We're still we're still cracking the code on that one. But uh, you know, it's really encouraging to see people, you know, uh decide to run. Matter of fact, uh our church has started an organization called Alaska Liberty Alliance, and uh Cody Anderson, who's kind of heads that up, he took our classes and he ended up running. He said he wouldn't have taken it, uh, or actually he wouldn't have running if it hadn't gone to our class.

Rick Green 15:02

Tell

Building A Pipeline With Leadership Congress

Rick Green 15:03

me about okay, so we've you and I have been talking about this for a while, and we're finally bringing a leadership congress to Alaska. We're with the the election really honestly has made me want to be super aggressive. I was thinking within five years we get to all 50 states. I've I've ramped that up to three years. And uh, and you and I were toying around with whether or not do Alaska, we're now going to do Alaska in 2027. Um, in order to, in order to kind of build the farm team. That's really the goal here with the leadership congress, is not only does it train you know students that 10 years from now can run for office, some some five years from now, uh, but also they become campaign managers, they become, you know, the volunteers, they become the legislative staff. It's a really important step in helping to to create a again, a farm team of good, conservative, articulate leaders. For Alaska, that's critical. Having having a basically a pipeline of of these candidates, staffers, and and others. Um, I know you're excited about it because you've told me you're excited about it, but what what do you think that could do for you for those local races and and just getting more people involved?

SPEAKER_03 16:05

I think that I think it's critical. And that's one of the reasons that I'm so excited about being able to bring it to Alaska. You know, we have uh we need to bring up more young people.

Rick Green 16:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:16

And I think that's one of the best ways to do that. We, you know, we still haven't exactly hammered down dates yet and some of the details.

Rick Green 16:22

But you've actually should ask you this way. You've been through our our coach congress. So you've been through a leadership congress. We don't just do it for young people, we do it for people of all ages. What was it like for you to actually sit in that seat and you know, file a bill, debate it in committee, get it out on the House floor, have to present it so that people can get an idea of what a leadership congress is?

SPEAKER_03 16:41

Well, I think it's one of the things is it's really challenging, but very, very, very interesting as you try to work through like what I did for this last one. Uh I chose to repeal ranked choice voting in Alaska. Which was on y'all's ballot dispute, right? Y'all know yet? Uh unfortunately, it looks like it's not gonna pass.

Rick Green 17:04

I mean, we're a week past the election. David said this. Uh you were probably listening the day after. He's like, we won't know about Alaska for another two weeks.

SPEAKER_03 17:10

Well, that's the that's the frustrating thing about Alaska in general, is we'll come back to your leadership congress saying, but go ahead and tell us about the election

Alaska Ranked Choice Voting And Decoys

SPEAKER_03 17:18

results.

Rick Green 17:18

You still don't know for sure on Sullivan or Right.

SPEAKER_03 17:21

So uh I think most people in the country have heard about decoy Dan Sullivan.

Rick Green 17:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:26

And it was really interesting. You know, we have Senator Dan S. Sullivan, and this guy named Daniel J. Sullivan Jr. decided he was going to run.

Rick Green 17:38

Never done for anything else.

SPEAKER_03 17:39

Never run for anything else. And we're fine, we found out that he was put up to it. But he actually filed to run. He changed his party affiliation to Republican. He'd never been a Republican. He had donated to all the Democrats in the past, and he tried to file as Dan S. Sullivan. He tried to change his middle initial. Wow. And and that was challenged. And our uh election officials actually booted him off the uh off the the ballot. Really. However, they sued over it, and our state Supreme Court put him back on, but they did make him use his uh correct initial, and they just they took off a repo Republican at the end.

Rick Green 18:25

So I've did he pick up many votes?

SPEAKER_03 18:27

I mean, is it how so far 3,600 votes, which would be enough to could be the difference. Right. Right now, uh after the initial account, uh Senator Dan S. Sullivan is losing by about six or seven hundred votes. Wow, that close. And what's interesting, but the way Alaska works, on election day, they count you know, the votes from election day and the early voting up until Friday or th through Thursday before the election. There's early voting on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, which should come out today or tomorrow. Oh, that hasn't even been released yet. That hasn't been released yet. Because part of the reason you know they have to verify that they did not vote in person.

Rick Green 19:12

Okay. So that's part of the delay for there. And then just to make sure I always get confused on this ranked choice voting thing. So I'm assuming then the the real Dan Sullivan could potentially pick up after the ranked choice thing the uh fake Dan Sullivan's votes. If those people chose both Dan Sullivan and Dan Sullivan.

SPEAKER_03 19:32

Right. So that's that's actually that's that's how it works. So the challenge is uh did they vote for a second person? Yeah. And you know, who was it? And so we'll see.

Rick Green 19:43

And there there's been talk of of the DOJ even going after um the the the Democrat. Apparently the the Democrat, which I guess is y'all's governor right now, is she the one that's running against uh Solomon the Senator? Is that right?

SPEAKER_03 19:55

Okay, former governor. No, she was the uh she was a former congressman.

Rick Green 19:59

She was the congressman, okay. Right. Okay. And so apparently her campaign was involved. She claimed they weren't. So there's a lot of lot of stuff. I mean Right.

SPEAKER_03 20:08

I just read an article from Must Read Alaska today that said uh there's quite a few DOJ uh and um Republican Party lawyers have shown us Bin Light now. So uh so there's gonna be some interesting things.

Rick Green 20:23

Good for the Alaska economy to have uh uh campaign conflict. No. Um all right, so uh man, what time has flown by here. Um

Duty Is Ours Results Are God’s

Rick Green 20:31

Patriotademy.com for folks that want to do what Lauren's doing in Alaska, you can do that in any community across the country and be a Constitution coach. You can also bring Leadership Congress to your state. Go to patriotademy.com to find out where we stand on your particular state, whether we're coming there in 2027 or 2028, and uh and help and get signed up. You can sponsor students, you can be a torchbearer and sponsor a student, you can uh nominate a student to serve, you can be like Lauren and help um, you know, bring it to your state. Um Lauren's our state ambassador for Alaska, so he's very involved. You don't have to be that involved if you don't have time to do that, but there's so much you can do to be a part of raising up this next generation. Um, you've also been to the campus several times, so you've been down here for Congress, you've you've been through our firearms for the first time. Right.

SPEAKER_03 21:14

So we've been through Constitutional Defense twice. Yeah. And then I was down for uh the Patriot Experience. Yeah. And I was here when you did Rebuilding Liberty, so the back of my ball shows up in the recording. In the recording. So uh I usually point that out to to our people taking our class. And then I we've also done uh you know the uh um constitutional live or no well yeah, we're actually we're helping with the Constitutional Live class now. Okay, and then we've done the uh campaign coach class.

Rick Green 21:49

Oh, that's right, because you said you had candidates that came into the case.

SPEAKER_03 21:51

We turned it into a class.

Rick Green 21:52

Yeah. So okay, let me ask you one final question before I go back to David and Tim. You've been doing this a while, you've had a lot of Defeats and some victories. How do you stay encouraged and in the fight?

SPEAKER_03 22:04

Well, I think uh John Quincy Adams quote, duty is ours, results are God's, is probably one of the most encouraging ones. And actually, it's at the bottom of all my my emails. By the way, one of the things I do, my one of my concerns was after our first class, how do we keep people engaged? Yeah. You know, because a lot of time people go to class and then you kind of drift off. So I've ended up sending out what I call my BC Biblical Citizenship Alumni update. Nice. So about every week or every two weeks, depending on what's going on, I send those out to everyone that's taken our class, any of our classes.

Rick Green 22:42

And then uh So would you send them after the election? Have you sent one yet?

SPEAKER_03 22:46

I haven't sent I sent one before the election. We left the day after the election to come down here.

Rick Green 22:51

So you're working on that one. So yeah. How to respond after the election? What do we do? We do more of what we were doing before. Like I said, a tenfold increase is what we need. Uh Lauren Baxter, super coach, state ambassador for Alaska. Thank you so much for sitting in with me today.

SPEAKER_03 23:06

All right.

Rick Green 23:06

It's my pleasure. That

Why Faith Belongs In Public Life

Rick Green 23:08

was Lauren Baxter from Up in Alaska, one of our super coaches. We're back with David and Tim now. And thanks to Lauren Baxter for joining us as well. And for all the coaches out there that have been taking Constitutional Live and Biblical Citizenship and all these classes and training up people that are now serving in school boards and city councils and state legislatures and even Congress as a result of the efforts that people have made. I noticed uh today, guys, that looks like uh Eli Crane has held on to his seat, uh, former Navy SEAL out there in Arizona who's been through Constitutional Live. And so there's just a ton of people out there that have listened to Wall Baldur's Radio for a long time. They've gone through the classes, uh, they've taken those principles and applied them. I think the what you guys were talking about before the break about perseverance and staying in the fight. Um, we just uh I think got a ton of people out there that really do get encouraged by Good News Friday programs, by the foundation's programs. So I'm just thankful for that. And I encourage people to go to wallbuilders.com, donate on that website, help us continue to have this radio program to give so many people hope. You can do that at wallbuilders.com today. Thanks to all of you that have already done that. Uh sorry guys, I ran us long on the on the interview there. About a minute left. What do you guys want to leave people with today?

SPEAKER_02 24:15

You know, we were talking before before the interview about fruits of the spirit and and spiritual life and and politics, perseverance, other things. Something else really came out in what Lauren was talking about in that election. We should have already known the victor up there for the U.S. Senate. Uh Dan Sullivan, they should already have that called as a few hundred race votes difference. But as Lauren points out, there's several thousand with the wrong Dan Sullivan. And we know, unequivocally, we know that that Dan Sullivan was recruited to be a distraction. Now, here's where George Washington, what he told us about politics, is religion and morality is indispensable support to politics. When you cut religion and morality out, which means when you cut people of faith out, when you exclude people of faith, you're going to lose religion and morality. But this is why you have to have religion morality in politics. They can't pass enough laws to keep people from doing the wrong and immoral things. And clearly what happened up there in Alaska is a wrong and it's an immoral thing that happened. And so this is just another good example why people of faith need to be involved. The more that we get involved, the harder it is for them to do immoral and and actually wrong things. And this Senate race would be over in Alaska if morality and religion were still part of our political life.

Rick Green 25:27

Well, we've got we've got a lot of work to do to get people back to that place. And that's why we do want to encourage people to, you know, whatever you're uh you say it all the time, David, the Bible says you have a voice. Use it. Your friends listen to you, use it, speak up, be be a part of the solution. And Tim, like you were saying earlier, those that are kind of blackpilling and trying to get people to step out or or not be involved, we need to counter that. So if somebody says that, you need to say, you know, people need to respond with the things we've been talking about today in terms of perseverance and staying in the fight.

Tim Barton 25:53

Yeah, one of the things that our friend Pastor Tim Brooks uh has said many times, I think I first learned this from him, is we want to be ready in case Jesus comes back tonight or tomorrow. We also want to be ready if he doesn't come back for a hundred years. That's right. So we need to live our life in such a way and work to help our govern our nation in such a way that if he doesn't come back for a hundred, two hundred, three hundred years, that we are still working to preserve the biblical foundation and the seeds of liberty for rising generations.

Rick Green 26:23

Well, folks, uh, stay in the fight. We're going to continue to bring you encouraging guests and encouraging news. And you definitely want to share those good news Fridays, especially in November and December, uh, throughout the rest of this year to keep people in the fight. Let them know we still can win. Uh, but even if we don't win, we keep doing our duty. But there's a lot of victories happening out there. Thanks for listening today. You've been listening to the Wall Boaters show.