Foundations Thursday And Listener Mail

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Welcome to the Wahbubluders Show. It's it's Thursday, not Friday. I almost jumped to Good News Friday before it was time. We will have some good news for you tomorrow, though, so don't miss that on Good News Friday. No, today's Thursday, which means it's Foundations of Freedom Thursday, and you get to ask the questions. We've got a pile of questions already sent in, but we would love to see more. You can send those to radio at wallboulders.com, radio at wallboulders.com, and we will get to as many as we can today. Rick Green here with David Barton

Saving The Patriot Academy Cottages

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and Tim Barton, and our first question is going to come from South Carolina, which is appropriate since they had their uh primary this week.

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Well, actually, Rick, can I can I interject? I would like to ask the first question. Um that makes me nervous. Like very nervous. Here's the thing. On Monday, especially when he hasn't asked permission. That that that that scares you. Well, on Monday, Rick didn't even let us be part of the program. Uh, he just hung out with Petra the whole time. So I feel like at this point, it's probably okay. Uh, Rick, we talked, I I guess a week and a half ago, uh, I I guess last week, you might know, um, about the the situation happening down uh on the Patriot Academy campus. Uh that there was a a Muslim group that was trying to come in and buy those cottages out from under you, and uh obviously would it be detrimental. Um, God brought incredible provision and you invited people to uh join and participate. We encouraged people um to help sponsor some of these cottages so that young leaders could come to continue to get mentored and trained, discipled, um, that lots of other groups, conservative groups, uh noted recognizable names that come down there and get training on everything through biblical citizenship and constitutional defense and you know, all the high-level things, leadership Congress, the things that you guys are doing that we are very blessed to support and participate in as well. Um, you had a call for people to help support that. And and I know there's been support coming in, but if people don't know those details, um, or maybe some have given, and they're like, hey, what's the update? Um, where does that stand? And and how can we still support that effort? And I, for everybody listening, this is not something Rick asked me to ask. This is not a plant from Rick. This is sincere. Rick and I are actually in different studios, we're in different places. We haven't talked about this. I just want to know, Rick, where do you stand with the the funding of the cottages um and the the stuff you're trying to do to preserve that for the training and discipling of future generations?

SPEAKER_00 2:37

Well, man, I do appreciate the question. Absolutely. And I want to thank the Wobblers audience because did they ever come through? Oh man, miraculous stories, incredible. Uh, I got to talk to many of them when they called in. Several did, in fact, sponsor cottages. Many sent in uh smaller donations, but it all adds up and helps big time. And and I think, Tim, if I remember right, when we when we first talked about this on the program, and I think you're right, it's about been about a week and a half, um, it was 16 cottages that we needed to get sponsored, and we are halfway there to getting all of those sponsored. Um, tremendous support has poured in. We've still got 20, you know, roughly about 18, 19, 20 days left before we have to close at the end of the month. And so if you had told me, Tim, that I would be perfectly at peace and full of faith that we would still get eight cottages sponsored at 100 grand a piece and and raise, you know, roughly a million dollars left between now and and August 31st, and with you know that many days left that I would feel like, oh yeah, no, no worries. God's definitely gonna bring that in. I'd have said you're crazy. Like that would be, you know, a year's worth of fundraising for us or more normally. But what God's done in the last three weeks, bro, I'm just like, I'm going, okay, yep, you're just showing off now. I knew you had the cattle on a thousand hills. I just didn't expect to get to see all of them. Um, it's anyway, it's been phenomenal, bro. And I'm just so thankful, so thankful, and I appreciate you asking. And and thank you again, all the wall builders folks. If you if you still want to participate, PatriotAcademy.com, click on that picture on the homepage of Kara and me uh talking about the roller coaster ride of the last few weeks. But it has been, it has been amazing, absolutely amazing to watch.

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Well, Rick, just in case somebody didn't hear a week and a half ago, um, I'm gonna say high level and then you clarify and uh and add some details and context. So um there was a a builder you guys had kind of partnered with um that was building these cottages, and uh essentially they were gonna be a little bit like Airbnb's, but you guys got to use them whenever y'all were doing um your events, and then the guy decided he wanted to just sell them. Uh, and there was this Muslim group that wanted to buy them, but then because that it's on your joining property, um, that was kind of the collab you guys had was to give him this property um because you were gonna benefit, he was gonna benefit, and then when he was gonna sell it kind of out from under you guys, and you would no longer have access to it. And it was on the property where Patriot Academy campus is, it was it was gonna be kind of a devastating thing. Um, and so you had the opportunity to go and buy it from this guy before he sold it to this Muslim group, uh, before it went to auction. And um, and this is why people were giving to help support to buy these cottages so that the training could continue. So that's what the ask was. If anybody wants to help partner in this, and then of course, for people that give, I I I'm inviting them uh on your behalf, but you clarify this. But for those that give, you need to come down to Fredericksburg. You need to come see some of this training, come do some of these events, whether it's the constitutional defense training, um, a leadership congress, whatever it is, come down and do one of these incredible events and see what you are helping support. Because once you come down and see this and you participate in some of these trainings, you're gonna realize firsthand this is some of the best training there is anywhere in America. And we want more people to do it, which is why we invited people to help support this effort. Um, so that's what the request is patriotacademy.com, uh, the picture of Rick and Kara, you can click on that, it tells a story, and then there's a donate button that you can donate to help support, sponsor, and purchase these cottages. Rick, did I leave any important details out?

SPEAKER_00 6:17

You nailed it, man. You nailed it. And while you were explaining that, I looked up at wallbuilders.show, which is where folks can always go to see uh or listen to a past program. And I found it. It was July 31st, so we were a little off. It's almost two weeks ago. Tomorrow will be uh two weeks when we uh when we did that show. And so July 31st, if you go to wallbuilders.show, you can get all the details from that program that we recorded. But as Tim said, Patriotacademy.com, super easy. You can just give right there on the website or mail in, however you want to do it. But all the information is right there at Patriotacademy.com. And Tim's right, we'd love to have you come visit, do a class at the uh at the Patriot Academy campus. And if if you got young people in your life that are looking for what's next, uh we even have super seniors that come spend a whole year with us at the Patriot Institute, but also college age. Uh some some of our some of our institute students have already been through law school or doing different things, but it's basically you know 17 to 25 year olds, and that's a full year here at the campus. So if you're interested in that, make sure you definitely go to Patriotacademy.com today and learn more. Um so Tim, you can, men, you can lead with questions like that anytime you want. That was a great first question.

SPEAKER_02 7:22

I like it. Well, and I mean, as we have said many times, usually we are promoting other people's products because we have a lot of friends and we believe in the cause of the missions, what God is calling them to do. And we invite people periodically, you know, hey, if you want to support Wall Brothers, one of our goals is to help uh strengthen courageous leaders who are helping preserve freedom in America. So we work with pastors, we work with legislators, we we work with educators, we we work in all these different arenas to help encourage and strengthen and equip these people that are going and doing things. That's part of what Rick you're doing at Patriot Academy. We don't often have an ask along the way. And so what we mentioned two weeks ago, this was far more unique. Not just hey, if you want to donate, great. No, this is a specific cause and a specific need. And so for anybody that was interested, we wanted to personally request and invite them to participate in the preservation of this incredible campus and training that goes on. So it's not normal that we would ask somebody to help support, but this is a very unique circumstance. Uh, and Rick, as you mentioned, there's so many amazing miracles that's already happened along the way. I'm sure at some point um you and Kara are gonna do some kind of uh testimony story, Facebook Live something where you just tell some of the God stories because there's been so many of them along the way. But for people listening, this is a unique thing we're encouraging to be part of. So anyway, that that's the plug. We have lots of questions I know we need to get to.

SPEAKER_00 8:53

No, that's good stuff, man. Thank you, thank you, thank you. And yes, we will be telling those stories uh that are are quite remarkable. Okay, well, let's uh let's head over to South Carolina, Somerville, South Carolina.

Could Canadian Provinces Join America

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Chris said, I've been hearing off and on about multiple Western Canadian provinces, Alberta, Saskatchewan, did I say that right? Saskatchewan, is that right, guys? I think that's how you say it. Working to leave Canada and possibly become U.S. states. If this were to happen, how does the process work? Would they first become territories of the U.S. for years to give time for their citizens to complete the U.S. citizenship process, or would they transition directly to states and their citizens just switch from being Canadian citizens to being U.S. citizens? When would these new states be granted representation in Congress? And what do you think this would do to the balance of power in Congress? And of course, guys, we heard President Trump say multiple times, I think Canada should be the 51st state. Now, we know President Trump loves to troll and loves to just throw crazy stuff out there. Uh, but there are definitely, I have seen this where some of these provinces are uh even trying to just basically secede from from Canada and I guess become their own their own nation. I I have heard a little bit about them wanting to be part of the U.S., but I haven't heard whether that was a real, you know, real thing. What do you guys think?

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Yeah, this is a fun one for me. I I I and I've got to do a shout out to Katie. Katie is is one of the the great researchers we have at wall builders. And so I asked her to dig deep into this, and I had several questions for her, and this is a blast for me. This is stuff that I I had not thought about. Um so I'm gonna go through some of the stuff that you you mentioned, Reggie, you asked about, and some things I had not even thought about. So, first off, you you've got Alberta and Saskatchewan wanting to get away from Canada, and that's kind of like saying, if Canada were Minnesota, Alberta and Saskatchewan or Texas. They want to succeed. They don't want to be part of Minnesota anymore. And so much of Canada is so super liberal, so progressive, so uh, I mean, under their former prime minister, it is he he took it crazy. And so these are really the cowboy areas. This is where a lot of the great rodeos are, the Calgary Stampede, a great rodeo to go to. So they are they are the common sense kind of states there. And they're they're working on secession from the the nation, regardless of whether America's in the picture or not. Um they've already been working on the the Supreme Court has ruled that, yeah, the provinces can secede, they can become independent, but there's a process you have to follow. And part of the process is you have to have an initial referendum that says, yes, we do want to leave, and then you have to have an official vote. And according to to their law, it takes a clear majority to indicate that. So they don't, and nobody's ever defined that for them. They don't know what a clear majority is, but it's not 50% or 51% or 52%. It's probably like 57%, 58%. There were some things that happened at 51%, and the court said that's not a clear majority, that's a bare majority. So nobody knows what that is, but let's say it's 57, 58 percent. So they can they can do that, but it takes double votes for them to be able to do that. So on the Canadian side, they would have some things that they have to do ahead of time. And and you know, it was interesting that as you as you mentioned, Rick, it's kind of like Trump trolling them. And and and some of their leaders kind of trolled back and said, well, uh we'll just buy Alaska from you guys, and and we'll even buy Minnesota from me. So there's this little thing going back and forth between the leaders. Now, I I agree that it's trolling, but I also think that if Canada said would become the 50-verge state, heart uh that Trump would accept that in a heartbeat. He would he would take that without hesitation. Um so from Canada's side, those provinces without Canadian permission, the provinces themselves can say, hey, we want out of of the Canadian government, the Canadian Union. So that's that's on that side. Now, on the other side, coming into the United States, we've got a process that has to be followed.

Article IV And The Statehood Path

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And that process is is set forth actually in the Constitution, Article 4, uh, talks about new states being admitted to the Union. And so there's some things that came up here that I had never thought about before on what this would do if this were to happen. So let's say that Canada, these these provinces say we do want to become part of the United States, and let's say that the United States says, okay, let's seriously consider this. So it has to go through the House and Senate, which means you're gonna have to get 60, um, 60 votes in the Senate, because this is one of the filibuster things they can filibuster. So you have to get 60 votes to to to agree to it. Now, the last time we had states added were Hawaii and Alaska. And they were added kind of together by an agreement between the House and Senate. And I don't think I knew this. Do you have any clue why those two states were attached together back in the 50s when they came in? One came in first and then the second one came in. But the agreement was that we'll let one in if we let the second one in. Any idea why why we did it in a pair back then?

SPEAKER_00 13:49

If I was gonna guess, I would guess maybe they just kind of knew Alaska would be Republican and Hawaii be Democrat, but the way you asked the question, I'm thinking that's way off.

SPEAKER_01 13:59

Well, you are exactly opposite, Rick, because the the agreement was that Hawaii is Republican, and the Democrats don't win another Republican state. And so the Democrats said, if you'll let us have Alaska, which is a Democrat state, we'll take it. And that's what they did. And since they both came in, Hawaii has voted every single presidential election, and Alaska's voted Republican. So the party agreement was hey, Hawaii's gonna be Republican, Alaska's gonna be Democrat. So you guys can get a state if we get a state. So that that was the way those two states came in, which was fascinating to me. I didn't know we had that agreement. So at this point in time, the question would be all right, would Saskatchewan and Alberta and those, they would probably be what we would call Republican states. Now, I've got to say, I was I was really surprised at the different values between American and Canadians, even though we use the same language.

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Well, Dad, to that point, I think one of the great questions was uh, would it be a territory, would there be a process of of uh, I mean, in essence, assimilation to learn American culture and values? Because one of the challenges we've seen from some of this open uh migration, I don't know if we even immigration is the right word, but um, when under the Biden administration, the southern border is wide open and you have all these illegal migrants that came in, one of the things that became very evident is the culture, the understanding that was brought to America. I mean, in some places, it they're embracing and following through on some of the third world actions, behaviors, and values that they left behind and they brought that with them. And that doesn't help elevate America in many ways. And so it is an interesting thought as well. Do you become a tour a territory and have to wait, you know, several years like you would if you were coming through a legal immigration process, and then you uh have to learn at least it's what it should still be for an immigration process, learn what it means to be an American, uh, get some assimilation down and then become a state. I think that's an interesting question as well, which I know that sometimes process is different than common sense. Uh, but it is an interesting thought that even saying, hey, they'd probably come in to be Republicans, I think a lot of a lot of Canadians and Americans don't recognize how different some of the ideology and and the worldview is because some of the ideological beliefs have been shaped by what has been normalized in Canada. And that's not always true for what's normalized in other places. And so even though I I think there would be some conservative values on some issues, I don't think they would be conservative on other issues

Culture Clash And Assimilation Questions

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because of what has been standardized and normalized in Canada, which could be anything from some level of socialism to some level of sexual expression and gender identity, et cetera, et cetera. So I I think that's an interesting part of the conversation is should there be, or is there? I guess it's two different things. Uh, is there legally any kind of requirement for assimilation before they become voting citizens? Um, and and maybe that the other part of the question is should there be? Um, even if legally there isn't. But I think that assimilation thing is a very interesting part of the question.

SPEAKER_01 17:13

Yeah, it it there's a couple of answers to that. And and going to the point you're making, uh I was asked to do about a week of national TV up in Canada a while back. And in doing that, I thought, you know, we both speak the same language. I'm not sure we think the same thing. So I got a bunch of their national polls out to see what they thought about certain areas. And I was absolutely blown away at how dramatically different Canada is from the U.S. Um the belief in God, the reliance on God or any kind of religious activity in Canada is so low. In the United States, it was up in the 60% range. Uh in Canada, ownership of guns is like super, super low. In the United States, it's it's high. And I just looked at so many things for them. Um their huge thing is family. Um they they put more emphasis on family than we do, but they they really kind of define that differently. So they have a very different value system, and that is a huge question. Uh, and so I I learned that just going up through those programs because I thought, you know, I need to talk to them where they are, and so what do they think and what do they believe? I can't act like an American and expect to communicate if they don't think that way and they don't. So that's a that's a real question. Now, from a legal standpoint, they would have to become a territory first and not a state. And territory, they would be annexed, and at that point, you could you could do some things, territorial requirements on education, et cetera. But if they come in as a state, there's no requirement. They just come in as a state, they're there. Uh they would come in with all the it it it might be like making France a state of the United States. It would be dramatically different values, beliefs, but that's the process it it would be. So that is there.

Electoral Votes And House Seat Fallout

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The thing that also I think really makes this interesting is what happens to politics. Now, you know, Trump was talking about annexing all of Canada, and there's some provinces that want to do that. I don't know that all of Canada wants to do that, and probably right now the polling is against it, they don't want to. But let's say they did it. Let's say that all of Canada says we want to become the 51st state in the United States. Here's where it gets interesting. At that point, they become the 51st state, they have 41 million, they now become the biggest state in the United States, they're bigger than California population-wise. Now, land-wise, I mean they're as big as the United States almost, but they would be the equivalent of uh they would be bigger than California. So whereas California has 54 electoral votes, Canada would now have 57 if they came in as a state. So they would be the the single biggest influence on a presidential election as a single state. The other thing that's interesting is they would have 55 congressmen and two senators. But because American law says you can only have four hundred and thirty-five members in the House, that means you would have to take some fifty-five members away from the other states. And so taking those 55 minutes members away from the other states, now Texas is going to lose congressmen. So it's a it's a great, fascinating question to ask. I've never thought through it before. That's some of the things that would be out there. Uh, I don't think there's a snowball's chance that it's gonna happen, but it was a great question to ask, and it made us look at the process. And I've I literally have never looked at the process before on how we would do that from something to the outside.

SPEAKER_00 20:39

Yeah, I think it's a fun question, no doubt. It's it's uh very, very, very unlikely, but they probably said the same thing about the Louisiana purchase. I don't know. I don't know. All right, quick break,

New Book On Declaration Signers

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guys. We got uh we got time for one more when we come back from the break. Stay with us, folks. You're listening to the Wall Builder Show.

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SPEAKER_00 22:00

Welcome back to the Wallboot Show. Thanks for staying with us. It's Foundations of Freedom Thursday. Next question up comes from I think it's Ania. Maybe it's Anita, and I'm missing a T there, but we'll go with Anita.

The 14 Presidents Before Washington

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Um she said, Were there 14 presidents before George Washington? A lot of info on the internet today, and then George Washington was not the first. Is this true? And what do these 14 men bring to our true history of America? Thank you. Oh, Anita, I'm so glad you asked this because one of our cottage sponsors called the other day and said, I want to name my cottage after one of the presidents who was president before George Washington. And whoever took the call didn't know about this part, and uh they weren't very happy. But I remember listening to David, I was literally listening to David Martin at a conference. I'm sitting, I think I was sitting with Cheryl, David, and you started talking about presidents before George Washington. I was like, what is he talking about? So this is fun. Anita, thanks for asking. DB?

SPEAKER_01 22:54

So you have to go back to look, we have a president of the United States now because the Constitution says we have a president of the United States. But before we had the U.S. Constitution, we had two other governments. We had the Articles of Confederation and before that the Articles of Association. And so in those, we we called, we called this place the United States, but the president was not the president of the United States. Back in the uh in the first one from 1774 to 1781, they were called the president of the Continental Congress. And so the president of the Continental Congress were assembling in Congress, the 13 states send their representative, and he's the president of the Congress of the 13 states. He's not president of the United States, but he's president of the Continental Congress. And so that's where you're going to have John Hancock. John Hancock was an early president. The first one's going to be Peyton Randolph out of Virginia. He was the first guy that was chosen. Then you get into John Hancock and you get into Henry Lawrence and John Jay and Thomas McKean, all these famous founding fathers. And then in 1781, Congress ratifies the Articles of Confederation. And the Articles of Confederation now make us a lot closer to a nation with states working together. And so the president at that point was called the President of the United States in Congress assembled. So you're still the president of the United States, but you're still president of Congress, and we, you know, we don't have this formal border yet as a nation. And so that's where you get to people like John Hansen and Elias Boudneau and Richard Henry Lee and John Hancock was also president under under that document. So there's 14 founding father individuals who were president of the United States in Congress, of the United States and Congress assembled, but not president of the United States of America as we know it today. So it's kind of comparing apples and oranges, even though they had the same title. What a president today does is not what a president back then could do, and what a president back then did, he was not able to do much of what a president today does. But that doesn't change the fact that we did have 14 presidents of the United States in Congress or in Congress assembled before we had a president of the United States under the Constitution.

SPEAKER_00 25:07

Okay, to make sure I say this right. So the first president of the United States under the Constitution was in fact George Washington. But prior to that, we had 14 presidents of the United States in Congress assembled. Or what was the other way you said it? That first group?

SPEAKER_01 25:21

In Congress assembled or president, they were president of the Continental Congress or the President of the United States in Congress assembled.

SPEAKER_00 25:29

Gotcha. Okay. All right. Well, we'll see who that cottage ends up getting uh getting named after. But uh I I would think John Hancock. That's the that's the only one, really, I guess, that that would be a famous name that people people would know, but you routed off several more that we should know.

SPEAKER_02 25:43

Man, well, you have Richard Henry Lee, who's the one who made the motion we separate from Great Britain, if you've seen the musical 1776, he's got like probably the best song scene in the movie. Uh obviously, Elias Boudneau is the guy that signs the peace treaty of Paris, who, or he's over Congress when it's signed. It's signed by the three ambassadors, uh, which is John Jay, John Adams, Benjamin Franklin. But Elias Boudneau is the president of Congress when it's signed. And that's the peace treaty that says, in the name of the most holy and undivided Trinity. That's a title of the peace treaty in which America becomes a free, independent nation. So that there's a few noted names in there uh that we could we could even dig further in our bag of history tricks, but uh there are some good examples. George Washington is my favorite first president of America, though.

SPEAKER_00 26:33

All right, Adita, great question. Thanks for sending it in. Everybody else, send those questions to radio at wallboulders.com. And don't miss tomorrow, we got some good news headed your

Send Questions And Friday Teaser

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way. Thanks so much for listening to the Wall Boulder Show.