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Welcome to the Intersection of Faith and Culture. It's the Wall Builder Show taking on the hot topics of the day from a biblical, historical, and constitutional perspective. Bill Federer with us a little later in the program. Rick Green here with David Barton and Tim Barton. And you can find out more about us at our website, wallbuilders.com. Also get some great materials there and some great swag from coffee mugs to shirts to everything else. But most importantly is the education you'll find there, wallbuilders.com. And then if you're catching up on the radio program, that's wallbuilders.show. You can go there anytime and scroll through the programs from the last few weeks and catch up and also send it to your friends and family. We appreciate it when you're a force multiplier like that. David and Tim, always good to have Bill Federer with us. He's going to be talking about some of the Islamification of America and uh and of course what's going on in Iran, how that fits into the whole big picture as well. So Bill will be with us a little later in the program.

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Well, guys, I'm always excited to have Bill on. We've been doing a lot more uh throughout the years, not on radio, but uh actually in-person events with Bill and his son Michael. Um it really is fun. Uh, you know, for all of us, Rick, as you work with uh your kids and crew, um, and uh I say your kids are you know all married adults and you have grand kids, but um it's fun seeing families work together and seeing uh Bill work with his son Michael and being able to partner with him in some things is super exciting. Uh, we actually are talking about a writing uh project collaboration right now with

Books On The Quran And Socialism

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them. And I say that because uh that there's two really good books that Bill has that are uh very hot books right now. One is what every American needs to know about the Quran, and one is on the history of socialism. Um, and Bill just does an incredible job doing a deeper dive. Um, and that, as you and I wrote in The American Story at the Beginnings, America's experimenting with socialism. And and we've gone down that lane a little bit. Uh that certainly our first two colonies both had experiments with socialism, both of them failed miserably, and and arguably, maybe the pilgrims had the true experiment because they kind of fully bought into a common storehouse, a communal system, communal property. And if anybody could have made it work, it would have been the the the pilgrims who like quintessential work ethic, character, morality, love God, love people. And when the best of the people couldn't make it work, it's not gonna work anywhere else. Anyway, we've all written about some of that. Uh, and it's always fun being able to talk to Bill because uh Rick, dad, as as all three of us dive into research for various talks we're given and finding out more details, we are often coming up with things that the one of the other didn't know. We go, man, that's so cool. Bill does the same thing. So I for me, it's kind of a fun nerd history moment um to be able to hear Bill lay out some stuff that uh probably some things I know, probably some things I'm learning for the first time when he says it. So I always love having Bill on. And again, highly recommend his book, uh, What Every American Needs to Know About the Quran and his book on socialism. Um, two really good resources that should be in all of our libraries.

Progressive Praise For Islam Questioned

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And Tim, you were mentioning about socialism. And I I I've been intrigued recently with Quran um stuff, or more specifically Islam, and there is such an affinity, such a toleration with progressives and and liberals toward Islam. They just think it's a great religion. They were very progressive. They were actually arresting people in London if you were criticizing Islam or if if you, you know, whatever. They were so far the other way, and then this big, massive study comes out that they have documented some 250,000 cases of sexual assault, often on minors. And it it's interesting that 87% of those arrested for these crimes have have Muslim names. And so now they're saying, well, wait a minute, this is not the religion of peace we were told. This is not what we And so in Europe the this has really kind of caused a firestorm, caused caused some things to their parliament. And some of that awareness needs to come to America, and that's what Bill is so good at doing is showing the history and showing that this is not an aberration, that this is not the exception, this is kind of the rule. And that's something that that American leaders are gonna have to deal with. And certainly as we're seeing the stuff happening in Oklahoma and Texas elsewhere, I think Bill's gonna have some real insight for us. Bill Federer, our guest, when we return. Stay with us, folks. You're listening to The Wall Builders Show.

WallBuilders 250 Years Landing Page

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Hey guys, this is Tim Burton from Wall Builders. I'm gonna let you know about a special landing page we have on the Wall Builders website. If you go to wallbuilders.com, there is a little box that says Wall Builders is celebrating 250 years of American freedom and independence. Click on that little box and it will take you to the landing page for 250 years of America. And on the landing page, there are several different little boxes. You can click on, one of them is for events, it will let you know of some major events that are that are coming up that are going on that you can actually come and participate in. You can come here, my dad or I give speeches, telling the stories about the birth of the nation, about the founding fathers, the faith connection in America. There's also a tab for resources that you can click on, and it will take you to lots of different speeches and sermons and documents and proclamations from the founding era. And then there's also a little tab that will take you to the wall builder store with lots of resources, all the things that maybe hat you want to wear, shirt to wear, or other wall builders products to read. This is the place to go to celebrate 250 years.

Pastor Caldwell And “Put Watts In”

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This is Tim Barton from Wall Builders with another moment from American history. The Reverend James Caldwell was a famous minister during the American War for Independence. His sermons taught liberty and God's opposition to tyranny. The British hated him and tried to kill him. So, for his own protection, he would actually take loaded pistols with him into the pulpit and lay them beside his Bible as he preached. In the 1780 Battle of Springfield, the Americans ran out of wadding for their guns, which was like having no ammunition. Pastor Caldwell ran inside a nearby church and returned with an armload of Watt Hymnals, the pages of which would provide the much-needed wadding. He took this great Bible-based hymnal, raised it in the air, and shouted to the troops. Now put Watts into them, boys! This pastor's ingenuity saved the day for the Americans. For more information on Pastor James Caldwell and other colonial patriots, go to wallbuilders.com.

Bill Federer On Islamification

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Welcome back to the Wall Builder Show. Thanks for staying with us. As always, great to have our good friend Bill Federer. You need to check out American Minute and read one of his 5,472 books as well. No, I'm kidding. We always give Bill a hard time because he's the most prolific writer I think I know. I wish I could churn out books like he does. Bill, I love you, brother. Thanks for coming on, man. Hey, Rick, great to be with you. Hey, appreciate all that you're doing. And just, by the way, I I know it's not our main topic for the day, but just the uh incredible wealth of wisdom and and history that you have been bringing to the Islam debate and and the and the Islamification of America. Thanks for coming down to the campus doing that event. Thanks for, I I love, I mean, I'm seeing people share stuff from you all the time, and I'm sharing stuff from you all the time. It's been so important to educate people on that. I know we've done a couple of shows on that already, but it's just been um just it's so, so, so important. And you have a way about uh, you know, from your metaphors and your analogies, you have a way of making it make sense to people, the threat that we face. So anyway, that that's a long way of saying uh thanks for for standing up on that one. You have for a long time, but I think people are listening to you now. I I hope they are.

Tolerance As A Cultural Trap

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Well, there's a trend and sort of see several things working together. Um drive neutral reverse, that Western civilization has gone from a Judeo-Christian past into a secular free sex, anything goes, LGBT cube, transgender present before it goes into an Islamic future. And and they actually it it's a progression. Um in other words, they guilt trip Christians into being more Christian than Christ. They say if you're really Christian, you will tolerate this alternative sexual agenda, and then you'll tolerate this, and then you'll tolerate that until pretty soon you just tolerate everything, and that includes Islam, which has a 1400-year track record of wiping out Christianity wherever it comes in.

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Um, wait, wait, wait, Bill, you just described for me an answer I needed. I've always how always wondered how in the world does the LGBTQ crowd team up with Islam? It just makes no sense when you know they threw, you know, kill them in the in the countries that are Islamic. You just you just explain why. They use that to create the tolerance sort of pattern in the Christian church, and then they come in with the Islam after they've done the whole sexual revolution thing.

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Yeah, yeah. And it's um it's an what they call an immunodeficiency syndrome. So um, if you have a healthy immune system, if a virus comes in, your white blood cells attack it. But if you have an immunodeficiency syndrome, the virus comes in and your body doesn't recognize the threat. And it's allowed to grow and kill you. And so the whole woke agenda is it it disables your body politics ability to identify uh threats and remove them. So, in other words, if um if we have uh MS-13 gang coming into a neighborhood and they want to sex traffic young girls and and they want to uh kill people that want to leave their gang and and they set up rules for the neighborhood, um, we would say, no way, not in not in my country you're gonna do that. But if they wave a religion flag and they say, Oh, this this is a religion, they go, Oh, well, I I guess we can let you come in and and have your nine-year-old brides and kill people that want to leave uh with the writ of laws, the apostasy laws. And I guess, you know, we can matter of fact, we can we could teach MS-13 in the schools now, um, you know, if it's a religion. In other words, you disable what normal people say. We're not gonna allow grooming gangs, we're not gonna allow a quarter of a million young girls to get raped by immigrants. But then if they say, no, no, no, you gotta be super tolerant to these people, it's like, well, okay, but uh, but but but they're raping little girls. Uh yeah, yeah, but you have to let it happen because it's because you want to be really tolerant. It's like, but, but, but it disables your mental ability to realize that there are things that want to harm you.

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And it's you just explained the mental illness. I mean, you really did. That that is that has had so many of us just uh but befuddled because you you see people literally putting up with exactly what you just described all over Europe. I mean, they're putting up with this map, these mass number of rapes for exactly what you just described. And and we would have, you know, it made no sense whatsoever. Now

Europe’s Demographic And Welfare Warnings

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it makes sense.

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Sorry, sorry to derail us from our our main topic, but that's that's No, no, that it's it's you know, so Europe's gone from a thousand years of Catholic cathedrals, Protestant Reformation, and Jewish neighborhoods to a secular Europe with the French Revolution, free sex, anything goes sort of encapsulated in John Lennon's song, Imagine There's No Heaven. It's easy if you try and no religion, too. It's like, okay, there's no religion, no morals, no guidelines, and then into Europe comes Islam, and they have their four wives and they put them in different apartments, and they go down to the welfare office and say their husband's not around, and they get welfare checks, and the guy visits his wives, and the more kids they have, the larger the welfare checks get. And he is living like a prince using this fraud, sort of like uh, you know, Somali Minneapolis Learing Center fraud. They they've they milk the system and it it's all paid for at state expense. And um, the European families are maybe having one child, and these it's a social stigma for a Muslim woman to have less than five. And so within a short amount of time, they will have a majority population in Europe. The if you can Google it, uh the the most popular name for newborns in Europe is Mohammed. Wow. And so and they don't need a majority, they just need where there's two parties neck and neck, and they'll uh agree to side with one party against the other one. I mean, the the parties have Trump derangement syndrome. I mean, that's sort of where I hate that other party, I've hated him for so long, and oh, we got reinforcements. Yeah, you want to help me defeat them? Oh, yeah, sure. You want some concessions for doing that? Well, okay, I'll give you some concessions. And they'll pinball on one party to another, back and forth, back and forth. And it's like a ratchet wrench. They'll gain a little, but they'll never give it back. Then they'll gain a little bit more, and then they'll never give it back until finally they they uh institute their Sharia law. Uh, I just was reading where uh in Minneapolis now they're having calls to prayer five times a day on loudspeakers.

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Wow.

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Now, if you're not a Muslim and you hear 5 a.m. somebody broadcasting their uh prayers, uh, it's very scary. It's very disconcerting, and it's all day long, every day. And um you cannot live without being constantly aware of this. Well, what happens is non-Muslims no longer feel safe and they move out.

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And that's the goal. And then they take over that intimidation and the marches in the streets, too. We're seeing it in, and of course, in Dearborn and Dearborn, Michigan, and in Minneapolis, we're seeing it in Houston. Um, it's definitely an intimidation

Iran, Hudna, And Treaty Strategy

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factor. Uh, Bill, I I I know I'm supposed to be asking you about Iran, so let's let's go to Iran real quick. What are your thoughts on the situation in Iran, the you know, on again, off again negotiations, back to attacking, back to negotiations. What do you make of all this?

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Yeah, so the studying of treaties in Islam is called Hudna, H-U-D-N-A-Hudna. It means when you're weak, you make treaties until you get strong enough to disregard them. And so Muhammad was weak when he first fled into Medina, 622 AD, and he uh makes a treaty with the three Jewish clans, and they are nice, they let him in. And um, and so then uh he uh does the battle of the trench, he chases away all the 10,000 Meccans, and he's in a position of strength. And then he goes back into the city and he gets offended at one of the three Jewish tribes and chases them out, and the other two stand down. They have Trump derangements in them. They're like, I hated that tribe. I'm glad they're gone. Now there's only two. And he picks on the second, confiscates their property, chases them out, and the big Jewish tribe stands down until finally there's one tribe and he chops off their heads and sells the women and children into slavery. And and so he takes advantage of their political differences. Um, but it's this idea that he made a treaty when he was weak, but then he breaks it when he's strong. And that went into the DNA of Islam. There was another in Arabia, they had a month off, it was their Ramadan month, where all these pagans would go to Mecca and worship at this square building called the Kaba, where they housed 360 different pagan gods. And these pagans were like, okay, we'll set aside our differences for this one month. Well, Muhammad gets verses from his Allah to attack the caravans during that month and catches them off guard. And so treaties and in the Islamic mindset are something it's just a time to restock missiles, it's just a time to re uh position yourself so that you can get a victory later. So during the uh months that Trump has been on again, off again, um Iran did something that few people recognize. They switched from GPS to Baidu. Uh it's BDS, it's the Chinese global positioning system. Why is this important? Well, uh GPS is is American, and the whole world has been using it, global positioning satellites, and and we could turn it off anytime we wanted, and they're blind. But once they switched to this BDS, it took them a while, but they kept us going on again, off again, so they were able to do it. Now they can move all their stuff around and we don't know, and we can't turn it off. And and it's you know, all the encrypted stuff. And so uh they've upgraded uh their ability to target it's actually uh you know, GPS can go within a couple feet, uh, the BDS can do within inches. Uh uh, it's actually more accurate. And and so now they can shoot their missiles and be more accurate with them, and and they've been upgrading it while they've been playing games with our negotiators. Um now in in Islamic treaties, when you read if one tribe is winning and the other tribe is losing, the losing tribe will seek out the winning tribe to negotiate a deal to maybe get a couple concessions so they can save faith and go back to their people and say, Yeah, we lost, but I still hung on to this. And and so the very fact that we want to negotiate in their mind that's us surrendering. In other words, it the way it works is you pound away at them and they come to you begging to negotiate, and you say no, and you pound away some more, and they come to you begging to negotiate. You don't negotiate because if you negotiate, all they're gonna do is reposition themselves to be stronger the next time around. You have to do a regime change. I hate to say it, but that's you know, so it Barbary Pirate Wars, Stephen Decatur, uh defeats the Muslims and forces the Pashab Tripoli to do a treaty. And he said, draw up the treaty as you wish, but as soon as you leave the harbor, it's going to be waste paper.

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Wow.

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In other words, uh Mohammed said, Don't be close friends with infidels, don't make friendship treaties with infidels. Uh you can only do it.

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Well, that has to be why President Trump has to use such harsh language. A lot of people, you know, uh uh get down on him because he says we're going to decapitate you and all that kind of stuff. I mean, he's speaking their language. He's he's he's saying what he what they understand.

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Yeah, and it's um but but in their minds any negotiating is weakness.

Toxic Empathy Versus Strength

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And um you have um oh um uh the um Herbert Samuel was the first uh mayor of the Jerusalem, the British mandate in the 1930s when the uh British uh you know took it over, and um he thought he would be really nice and he would let all these Muslim terrorists out of jail. Well, they didn't view uh what he did as niceness, they viewed what he did as Allah blessing them for being uh uh terrorists. Okay. And so what else does uh this uh Herbert Samuel do? He makes the Hajj Amin Al-Husseini the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem. This is the number one terrorist that has organized riots that killed like dozens and dozens of Jews, and he's and he's like, Well, I want to show that I'm really nice uh and I'm gonna make him the grand mufti. You're promoting this guy? And now he can spout his anti-Israel, anti-British sentiment from a position of authority rather than you you crush that, and so it's called toxic empathy. Um, and it's it's where you um let in a criminal and you're nice, um, but if they don't have a DNA change, all they're gonna do is view that niceness as weakness. Uh it's the law of the jungle. You give lions chase a zebra, and if the zebra shows weakness, they're gonna pounce. They're not gonna say, Oh, you showed me that weak niceness, I'm gonna show you it back. No, it it international politics is the law of the jungle. They only respect strength.

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Yeah, no doubt, man. And and you know, of course, you write a lot about in courageous Christians, the whole uh need for Christians to understand the world and to stand up and be courageous and and not be weak and certainly not to have toxic empathy. Um and and that book available, of course, at American Minute and uh your regular uh radio as well at American Minute. Is it.com.org. I always get it back. Is it dot com? Dot com. Okay, yes. Um and you know, and actually let's do that for the last question

Courage, Sharia, And Patrick Henry

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today. What are Christians courageous enough to stop the Islamic spread? Can we can we be as courageous as centuries ago um when it it took some time to finally you know find the backbone and be willing to to make the stand? Uh do we have that courage today?

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Yeah, that that is the question. I I looking at scriptures, um God always seemed to wait until things look hopeless, and then he raises up little nobodies who are small in their own eyes, but big in faith and courage. And so uh from the scripture point of view, it only takes a small number of courageous people to turn things around. Um, you know, if you if I were to look in the natural, it would be a little bit depressing, but uh I have to look at the spiritual. You know, it's important to distinguish between the person and the uh religion of Sharia. Uh we love the Muslim person, we just don't love the Sharia teaching. It's it's not a hardware problem, it's a software problem.

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We love the person, we just don't like sharia. There's a great quote from Patrick Henry, and he said, uh, I know how well it becomes us as a Christian to forget and forgive as individuals practicing a holy will religion. We're bound in to forgive injuries done to us as individuals, but when the character of a Christian, you had the character of patriot, you're in a different situation. He says, if your enemy smite one cheek, turn the other, this is the admiral maxim of forbearance that we do as individuals. But he says you must stop there. You cannot apply this to your country. As members of a social community, this maxim does not apply. When you consider wrongs done to your country, your political duty tells you of vengeance. Forgive as a private man, but never forgive public injuries. Observations of this nature are exceedingly unpleasant, but it is my duty use to use them. In other words, I remember talking to Charlie Kirk when Oprah Winfrey was uh trying to malign uh the turning point members. Remember that? Calling them all kinds of names and and and and um and I I told him, I said, you need to hit back hard, you need to threaten to sue Oprah Winfrey and the View and all of that. And uh because you're standing up for all those young men and women that have identified with Turning Point. And if you oh, just forgive and let it go, um, they're gonna be embarrassed in front of all their classmates because you have to hit back hard and to make Oprah apologize, which they made her do, and she didn't do it good enough, so they made her apologize a second time and then they took her off the air for a couple weeks. You have to hit back. So we as individuals you're gonna slap her, slap your own. But if what you're standing for is the rights and the freedoms of other people, our founders um, you know, the Constitution says to preserve the blessings of freedom to ourselves and our posterity.

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Yeah, man. No, that's good. That's good. Bill Federer, uh, appreciate you, brother. Look forward to the next time we get you on. Appreciate you, Rick. AmericanMinute.com. We're gonna take

Jefferson Draft Declaration Resource

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a quick break. We'll be right back with David and Tim Barton.

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Wrap Up And Key Takeaways

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Welcome back to the WallBulder Show. Thanks for staying with us. Thanks to Bill Federer for joining us. AmericanMinute.com. AmericanMinute.com back with David and Tim now. Uh all right, yeah, a lot there, guys, and certainly does help put the whole Iran thing in perspective. I love the way he described it.

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Yeah, I love his starting place too to help understand the context of how do you get to a place where, you know, birth as a Christian nation here in America, how do we get to the place where now we have mosques and things going up everywhere? Of course, he takes us on a great journey through it, but I I want to highlight what he pointed out at the beginning is it really starts with secularism. When you remove that Christian foundation and you become more secular, and then you embrace the sexual revolution, the LGBTQIA plus, and kind of anything goes, you are creating a void and a vacuum that we have seen all over Europe and now in America, unfortunately, is being filled with Islam. And and this should be a cry and a challenge uh for Christians. Or the reason we need to be more active in in promoting our faith and defending uh our Christian values and and honestly, Western civilization, is because when you look at what Islam has done from Africa to Asia, uh across Europe, it has not brought more stability, prosperity, uh, it is not brought abundance and blessings to individuals. It doesn't bring equality. Contrary to what some popular commentators, uh, even conservative commentators on the right might be saying, No, Islam, by and large, is not this religion of peace. Um, and I'm so grateful for the way that Bill breaks this down. And again, plug for his book, What Every American Needs to Know About the Quran, will give more details off footnoted. Highly recommend that book.

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Yeah, the results uh speak for themselves in nations where Islam dominates uh versus nations where Christianity dominates. And we want the good results of a Christian culture, not what we see in those Islamic cultures. Thanks so much to Bill Feder for joining us today. Thank you for listening. You've been listening to the Wallbooker Show.