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From Pro-Family Policy To Power Grids: Jason Isaac On Energy Facts And Freedom
Want a clean, honest look at energy that starts with truth and ends with action? We open with our core lens—biblical, historical, and constitutional—and then sit down with former Texas legislator Jason Isaac to examine how policies shape lives on the ground. The result is a clear, human-centered tour through ESG pressures, energy poverty, reliability, and the global tradeoffs we rarely see on headlines.
Jason shares how financial tools are being used to choke off insurance and capital for traditional energy and agriculture, driving up costs for families who can least afford them. We test popular assumptions against real data—like why Austin’s air quality didn’t meaningfully improve even with far fewer cars on the road—and discuss how American emissions controls outperform most of the world. We also pull back the curtain on imported pollution and the moral costs of battery minerals, including child labor in cobalt mines, showing how feel-good goals can hide real human harm.
The conversation moves from slogans to standards. Rather than defaulting to all of the above, we ask tougher questions: Is the power affordable? Is it reliable? Does it reduce poverty and preserve human dignity? We explore why rising utility rates increase eviction risk and homelessness, why subsidies can distort markets and undermine grid stability, and how prosperity often enables better stewardship. Along the way, we point to practical steps—sharing credible information, hosting local Constitution classes, and pressing for policies that secure dependable energy while elevating the most vulnerable.
If you’re ready for a perspective that respects faith, follows evidence, and fights for people, this is your next listen. Subscribe, share with a friend who cares about energy and freedom, and leave a review telling us the one policy change you’d make first.
Rick Green [00:00:07] Welcome to the intersection of Faith and Culture. It's the WallBuilders Show, taking on the hot topics of the day from a biblical, historical, and constitutional perspective. I'm Rick Green with David and Tim Barton. And today we're bringing you a presentation from one of our Pro Family Legislator Conference presentations. Did I say that right? Yeah, something like that. Basically, a speaker from our Pro Family Legislators Conference, who I will tell you about in just a moment. But first, I want to invite you to visit both of our websites today. Of course, with the radio program. If you've missed any shows over the last few weeks or months, all of that's available right now for download at wallbuilders.show. And there is a wealth of information there. I'm talking tons of programming with great interviews, lots of good news, lots of foundational questions being answered on Foundations of Freedom Thursdays. 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And then we're just going to say within our country, because we live in a constitutional republic, our law of the land is our constitution. And we're going to look at whether or not something lines up with that. So that's why you hear us say that all the time biblical, historical, and constitutional perspective. All right. So, I just wanted to make sure, you know, that when you listen to the program, you don't just listen passively, but as you listen, you start thinking about friends and family and people maybe that you haven't even talked to in a while that you're thinking, wow, this this particular program would really be interesting to them. Or this is how I can get that person to get more engaged in the culture and more involved. And of course, as we talk about on the program all the time, another way for you to do that is to host one of our constitution classes. Go to the other website I was going to tell you about. So wallbuilders.show to share the radio program. 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Whether it's just that person now learning these things and becoming more active, or at least better understanding how a constitutional republic works and biblical citizenship works, or it leads to them running for office or starting a group there from your home or your church that now goes and influences the school board, the city council, the county commission, the state legislature, and even the White House and Congress. So, there's a lot you can do, wallbuilders.com to check it out. Okay. So, we're gonna take a break, and when we come back from the break, we're gonna hear from one of our speakers at the ProFamily Legislators Conference. His name is Jason Isaac. He's a former state rep, actually represented the same area I did. So he actually had the legislative district that that I had 25 years ago. He had it about 15 years ago for several terms, and then he moved into the basically the policy think tank world for a wonderful organization of Texas, Texas Public Policy Foundation, worked for them for a while, did all these incredible things with the energy sector. His wife actually, Carrie Isaac, became our state rep. This this is my home where Kara and I have been for 30 years before we moved to to start the Patriot Academy campus. We live in a little town in Texas called Dripping Springs, just outside of outside of Austin. And so, this legislative district that I represented is the one that Jason Isaac represented for several terms. So anyway, Jason is going to be with us when we come back from the break. He's speaking at the Pro Family Legislators Conference. By the way, if this is your kind of new to the WallBuilders program, if you haven't heard of our legislators conference, you need to even now start thinking about for next November, because it just happened a couple weeks ago. Start thinking about for the next one next year to encourage your state rep or state senator to go to this. It is a very important part of them being a good legislator. They're gonna get great ideas, they're gonna get encouraged, they're gonna have all kinds of, you know, everything from spiritual, intellectual, just the social interaction with these other pro-family legislators from across the nation. It's a phenomenal, phenomenal event, and it's exploded now. We have a huge number of legislators from across the country that come to this. So we've already shared with you one of David's presentations at the legislators conference from a couple of weeks ago. This week we're gonna share several other speakers, and we're gonna start with Jason Isaac today. So quick break, we'll be right back. You're listening to the Wall Boilers Show.
Rick Green [00:08:22] Welcome back to the WallBuilders Show. Thanks for staying with us. All right, let's jump into that presentation. This is Jason Isaac speaking at the Pro Family Legislators Conference.
Jason Isaac [00:08:29] I looked at my notes after about four hours of sitting there in this ways and means committee. And the only thing I had written down was Carbon King. I'm a marketing guy. And if someone's gonna insult me, like at least make it good. But I owned it. It's on my wallet, it's on my business cards, it's on my license plate. My wife made me a costume one time. We went as the Carbon King and Queen. But I do embrace a high carbon lifestyle, and I do think the rest of the world should too, because it's where you have a high carbon lifestyle, you have economic prosperity. And where you have economic prosperity, you have environmental leadership. And so, I want to talk to you a little bit about what I've been working on for the last five or six years since I left the legislature, and it's defeating the weaponization of capital against American energy companies, the agriculture industry, things that we like, the gun industry, things that you know espouse freedom through this thing called ESG. And it stands for environmental social and governance, but what it really relates to is everyone's suffering guaranteed. That's really what ESG is. When you start denying people access to credit, or when you refuse to do business with companies because they produce energy, or when in my case, earlier this year, I get a letter from the Hartford that says that we've noticed from your Facebook page, you are a trade organization that promotes energy, and we are no longer renewing your insurance. So great getting to visit with Michael E last week and showing him that letter and him immediately writing down like we're gonna begin an investigation on this. Comer in the house already is, but to be personally discriminated against because I promote American energy is laughable. So, if you have an insurance policy with a Hartford, just know that they don't do business with companies that produce American energy. If you earn more than twenty five percent of your revenue from the production of oil, gas, coal, they will not do business with you. Might want to reconsider where you take your business. We have so much to be grateful for.
Speaker 4 [00:10:39] Kamala Harris speaking: When we invest in clean energy and electric vehicles and reduce population, more of our children can breathe clean air and drink clean water.
Jason Isaac [00:10:51] You heard her. There's the whole Malthusian movement right there. She said what they've been doing for decades. They want to reduce population. They corrected this in the White House speech records, and it really said pollution and they crossed out population. She misspoke. But what's funny is we're world leaders in clean air in this country. We've reduced that pollution nearly 80% over the last five decades. In fact, during the COVID lockdowns, I heard an electric vehicle lobbyist in Austin say we improve the air quality so much in Austin during the first two months of the COVID lockdowns that we should make everybody go electric vehicles. And he said that because we reduced 50% of the vehicles on the road. And I thought, gosh, what a heartless individual. Like how self-serving could you be? Not everybody, not everybody's a wealthy individual that wants to drive an electric golf cart. You know, we actually need transportation that works, but I'm like, I wonder how much the air quality did improve in Austin. And so, we checked the air quality monitors. This country has more of them than anywhere in the world. The air quality in Austin during the first two months of the COVID lockdowns with less than 50% of the vehicles on the road got worse. They just make stuff up. I mean, I couldn't believe it. And so, we looked at the whole entire country, and there were some cities that got worse. There were some cities that had improvements. They were all negligible. We're in a natural state when it comes to air quality. These things, these are the things your kids aren't hearing in schools. But we're working on that. Had a great project earlier this year with a company called Discovery Education. We're removing climate alarmism from their curriculum K through twelve. I was so impressed with this company in North Carolina that actually wanted to work to remove what in their curriculum is driving kids to have eco anxiety, a name diagnosis with the American Psychological Association. Well, I can tell you fossil fuels are the cure. People don't know that we're world leaders in clean air. When we actually increase regulations, what do we do? We export the jobs and then we import the pollution. I mean, you I was just looking at the numbers today. California doesn't drill for oil in California when they're sitting on a plethora of it. 21% of their oil comes from Iraq. Twenty percent of the oil they import in California comes from Brazil, which is interesting. That's where Gavin Newsom is right now at the climate cult gathering called COP 30, where they deforested hundreds of thousands of trees to make way for a four-lane highway so that people could get to the conference in Bay Lim and the coast. Fifty thousand people are attending this cult gathering in Brazil over the next ten days. Thousands and thousands of people that live in Balim were displaced. They were forced out of their homes because they don't own their homes. They lease them, they rent them. Thousands of people displaced so that someone could convert a property into an Airbnb, a short term maybe it's not Airbnb, I forgive the brand usage, but a short-term rental where they can make more money in a couple of weeks than they make over years.
Rick Green [00:14:00] All right, quick break, everybody. We'll be right back. You've been listening to Jason Isaac speaking at the Pro Family Legislators Conference. We got several of these presentations we're going to be sharing with you this week and a little bit more, probably throughout December and even a little bit after the first of the year. There’re so many good speakers this year, and just it's just incredible stuff for us to learn and know, not only these legislators, but for us to know as well. So, stay with us. We can take a quick break. We'll be right back here listening to the WallBuilders Show.
Rick Green [00:15:34] Welcome back to the WallBuilders Show. Thanks for staying with us. Let's jump right back in with Jason Isaac speaking at the Pro Family Legislators Conference.
Jason Isaac [00:15:42] So they just kick people out, they cancel their lease, evicted people. This is the anti-human movement of the climate alarmist Griff. But the last thing we want to be doing is exporting jobs and importing pollution. Speaking of California, 60% of the pollution in California is attributable to Asian air pollution. It's incredible. I've joked that the Chinese of all the technology the Chinese steal from us, it would be nice if they would utilize our pollution control technology. They don't. They could care less about it. They love child and slave labor. They don't they love not having bag houses and scrubbers on their coal-fired power plants like we do here in the United States. So, we talk about we're world leaders in clean air. I want to talk a little bit about some emotional messaging that will really help people to win on get them on our side. And it's talks about expensive energy hurting the poor. There's a lawsuit. There's a couple of lines here from the lawsuits that's happening in California. I assure you that no none of the people in the 200, the 200 is over 200 civil rights organizations in the state of California that are suing the California Air Resources Board saying that their policies violate the Civil Rights Act, that they have disparate impacts on communities of color in California. The environmental policies that Gavin Newsom supports are alleged to violate the Civil Rights Act. No surprise for me. But what's really surprising is today in California, there are over 800,000 meters, electric meters that are behind on their payments. It's over two million people that live behind those meters. Over 800,000 meters are currently behind in California on their electric payments. Expensive energy hurts the poor. In 2023, two hundred and forty-two thousand meters were disconnected. Those are residential meters that were disconnected. There's a 30% increase that from the year prior. Those are the people that are part of this everyone's suffering guaranteed. It's the greatest risk of homelessness. And I get some weird looks when I talk about homelessness and expensive energy, but when you buy a home and you have a homeowner's insurance policy, you're required to keep your utilities on. When you sign a lease, you're required to keep your utilities connected. And so, when you lose your primary utility electricity, like two hundred and forty-two thousand families did in California in twenty twenty-three, you are at the greatest risk of homelessness. Expensive energy hurts the poor. California's electricity rates in the last five years have gone up sixty percent. It's the highest in the nation. It's unaffordable. Expensive energy hurts the poor. And we produce the energy right here in the United States more responsibly than anywhere else in the world. I tell people we stand over the key to ending poverty as we know it. So, I've been I just got back from Washington, DC. I've been with legislators from around the country over the last few days, and I kept hearing this and I've been hearing it for decades, and I used to use it in the past. This all of the above energy. Oh, I'm for all of the above. Well, as I started studying persuasive communication and really starting what that meant, and I'm like, that's just really lazy messaging. It's easy to say, oh, I'm for all of the above. And then you'll have some people that'll add things like, I'm for all of the above that works, or I'm for all of the above that makes sense. Why don't you just say you're for affordable and reliable energy? And this is our Secretary of Energy, Chris Wright, at a congressional testimony earlier this year.
[00:19:15] Secretary Wright, this administration has made clear it wants to make America energy dominant. Is that correct?
Chris Wright [00:19:22] Yes.
[00:19:24] And wouldn't you agree that the best way to achieve energy dominance is by an all the above approach to energy proju production? Just yes or no?
Chris Wright [00:19:34] I've never supported all of the above because if something's gonna make energy more expensive and less reliable, I'm not for that.
Jason Isaac [00:19:41] I love Chris Wright. I've had the opportunity to work with him since 2018. He joined our trade organization, the American Energy Institute, two days before getting the nomination to be our Secretary of Energy. I got that check from him last December when he left Liberty Energy to be there, no longer be their CEO, but to step over into this role in the Trump administration. He understands what it means to fight poverty around the world. He's traveled extensively. He started a nonprofit called Bettering Human Lives, where they get propane canisters and cooktops to people in Africa and help start businesses, small independent entrepreneurial businesses in Africa to then refill those propane canisters and provide clean cooking fuels. Because what does that do for women in Africa? It saves them an hour a day because that's how much time women in Africa spend collecting wood, animal dung, or biomass or other things to heat up water to make it somewhat potable. So, he understands that the suffering that's happening because of a lack of access to energy.
Rick Green [00:20:44] All right folks, one more break, gotta interrupt Jason for just a second here, we'll be right back, you're listening to the WallBuilders Show.
Rick Green [00:22:58] Welcome back to the WallBuilders Show. Thanks for staying with us. Let's jump back in with Jason Isaac speaking at the Pro Family Legislators Conference.
Jason Isaac [00:23:05] UNICEF reports there are 40,000 kids between the ages of four and thirteen. 40,000 kids between the ages of four and thirteen that are working in Chinese owned and controlled mines. There's seven there's 19 mines. The Chinese own 17 of them. There's one other mine I just learned got a $4 billion tax bill from the Congolese government because they're not owned and controlled by the Chinese Communist Party. It's an Australian mining company. They'll never pay that $4 billion, but they'll probably lose their mine and they'll happily give it to the Chinese. But slavery is alive and well, and it's unfortunate. These kids are mining cobalt for the electric vehicle transition, which is fortunately dead because the Trump administration killed subsidies, and I can I can go on and on about that. But it's great for consumers that we are no longer paying for wealthy individuals to drive fancy golf carts. Let's hope these kids can get access to energy and lift their lives out of poverty. But you see the kids on the right, they're covered in like this yellow sulfuric acid dust. That's what's used in the refining process. That's a young girl there on the left, and the picture is really blurry. These pictures are from a guy named Siddharth Kara who wrote a book called Cobalt Red. She's a young girl putting her baby back into a box so that she can go work for a dollar a day in a cobalt mine. This is absolutely heartbreaking. By the way, so Darth Carl, who wrote this book, he is a leftist. So, he is not probably politically or ideologically aligned with us, but wanted to expose the tr the atrocities that are happening. And you wonder why we're going down this route. What do they need the cobalt for? What do they need the lithium and the rare earth elements and the critical elements? Because we've distorted and subsidized a market that's so heavily favored, unreliable sources of electric generation. You look at the amount of subsidies that wind and solar receive. This is from 2010 to 2023, over $60 a megawatt hour for solar electric generation is the subsidies they receive. Wind is nearly $20. We used to sell electricity for $20 a megawatt hour. It's gone up significantly now. But when people are saying, oh, oil and gas get subsidies, when you break it down, and this includes tax credits. So, we did apples to apples. We wanted to have a very strict comparison here. When people say oil and gas get subsidies, and I've talked to I've been in the White House with an oil and gas CEO yelling at me, telling me he doesn't get subsidies. And I said, well, we included tax credits, and there are tax credits that everybody can get that's in business because we wanted to have a true comparison. But look at the amount when it's compared to an actual unit of energy created. And these on the bottom that give barely any subsidies or tax advantages at all actually produce electricity when we need them, not just when the weather cooperates. And you look at what's happened is we've added more unreliables, as I fondly call them, wind, solar, and batteries now make up more than half of the grid in Texas.
Rick Green [00:25:59] All right, folks, we're out of time for today. We will pick up right where we left off with Jason on tomorrow. So, we'll get the conclusion of his presentation. So important for us to take this just common-sense approach to energy, to our policies. We have so much waste in our country and around the world right now over bad science. I remember learning years ago the phrase, I'm an environmentalist, but I'm a scientifically based, economically rational environmentalist. It's so important that we approach things exactly like that. And so thankful that we have Jason sharing these things with us. So we'll pick up where we left off from today. If for some reason you're gonna miss tomorrow, it'll be available at the website, wallbuilders.show. All right, folks, thanks for listening. You've been listening to the WallBuilders Show.