Rick Green [00:00:07] You found your way to the intersection of faith and culture. Thanks for joining us on The WallBuilders Show today. Be sure and visit us online. Wallbuilders.com is our main website and then wallbuilder.show is our radio site where you can catch up if you missed some of the programs of the last few weeks. David and Tim Barton here. I'm Rick Green guys. Man, what a, what an historical time. Is that the right way to say that? What a, what a history making time that we're in. I mean, this is, this is absolutely remarkable. The things that are happening. Yesterday, we talked about President Trump acknowledging God very much like what a George Washington would have said about, you know, thanking God for his providence and, and, asking for his protection. But who would have thought from the time we recorded yesterday to the time to be on the air today, the president Trump would already be announcing a ceasefire and, already a nickname in this thing, the 12 day war. This is, this is remarkable guys. 

Tim Barton [00:00:56] Well, wait a second, I read a lot of conservative outlets saying Trump started World War Three over the weekend, right? I mean,

Rick Green [00:01:03]  It was a quick World War. Three, huh? 

Tim Barton [00:01:05] Well, it's gonna be terrible for oil prices and stocks and just so many really bad things are gonna happen. It's ironic in a lot of ways. I think it was Pakistan that initially nominated him for the Nobel Peace Prize. My understanding is after the bombing of Iran's nuclear facility over the weekend, they came back and I guess it was yesterday, they backed up on some of that saying that he did not go the way of a peace prize winner with bombing another nation. And so I think they're kind of recanting and drawing back on that. But here's, here's part of the levels of irony with that. President Trump rightfully should get a Nobel peace prize for what he's done to bring peace and stability around the world, but certainly to the Middle East. When you look at what he did with the Abraham Accords, he was initially, I think, and you guys might can refresh my memory, but I think he was nominated by somebody for a Nobel peace prize back when the Abraham accords became a thing. And, and what he's doing now, he did help Pakistan and India find peace. He has helped bring peace between Iran and Israel. And the reality is sometimes the way that you bring peace. Is you punch the bully in the mouth a few times. So they're not very tough. And you're like, all right, now you two guys be friends. And they're like yes, sir. That's a little bit of what he did, but he has helped bring stability and peace to the region. And this is something that guys, we've talked about with some of the, the things happening in our nation with religious liberty. If you'd have told us several years ago that we would be at a place potentially where the 10 commandments can go back in school, where they're gonna be potentially prayer and Bible back in schools, some of the things that we've been working on for our entire existence for decades would be coming to fruition, we might not have fully believed or understood. The same thing, if someone were to say, okay, Iran is now going to have a ceasefire with Israel, they're coming to the table because they're no longer a threat to any large extent anymore. And this is not to say that there could not be cells in America. Obviously what we saw with, even over the weekend with some of the attacks in churches and religious gatherings, for sure there can be cells because when you have the southern border open for years at a time. The Biden administration inviting people in, there's a lot of reason to believe there are some very bad, evil cells in America where people wanna do some bad, evil and dangerous things. And there's reason we should be vigilant and pay attention and churches ought to pay a lot attention. We should be careful where we go places. But with all that being said, it's just, it's interesting that we're to place. And again, if a couple of years ago you said, you know what? President Trump's gonna navigate this thing with Iran. He is gonna bomb them and then they're gonna come to the table. Within like a day and a half, and they're going to have a ceasefire. These are things that we might not have thought were fully possible, but it's incredible to see that the favor that God has given President Trump and the success that he is having and that the success America is having on so many levels under his leadership administration. It really is impressive to watch. 

David Barton [00:04:17] Yeah, it's been a blast not only watching it, but just hearing Trump talk about it. I mean, some of what he's put on an X with this stuff has been a lot of fun just hearing him describe it. And so Tim, you were mentioning about the ceasefire and Rick, you mentioned that that takes effect tomorrow night at midnight, but it's really interesting to me that it's not between the United States and Iran, because we really didn't have anything going. We didn't want anything going, we spank Trump spanked them pretty good for what they were doing. But the ceasefire is between Israel and Iran, and those aren't the two countries talking. It's Trump talking for those two countries. Here's what he said. He said, it's been fully agreed to between Israel and Iran that there will be a complete and total ceasefire for 12 hours, at which point the war will be considered ended. I would like to congratulate both countries, Israel and I ran on having the stamina, courage, and intelligence to end what should be called the 12 day war. This is a war that could have gone on for years and destroyed the entire Middle East, but it didn't and never will. So essentially 

Rick Green [00:05:18] Wait, wait, David, you got to stop. You got to just laugh at the fact. That's the first time I've ever heard anyone congratulate the two parties in a war. I mean, leave it to Trump. I want to congratulate the fighters. They did a great job tonight. And, uh, he's basically the Bruce buffer or Joe Rogan of, International war.

David Barton [00:05:36]  It's and it's really funny too all right guys you fought it was a good fight now back off we're gonna have 12 hours of re-cool off and then we have 12 hours of whether nobody fires each other nobody picks up a weapon and we make it through 24 hours you guys this is over and so essentially that's what he's laid out and it is both sides and you know clearly he has a friendship with Israel he doesn't have that friendship with Iran but he's trying to be an honest broker I think they have a high respect for him now. Quite frankly, he did go in and pop the bully in the mouth and say, back off and shut up. And I think it's been huge. And Tim, you mentioned about Pakistan. This is what Pakistan wrote when, now this is, as you pointed out, they were nominated for Nobel Peace Prize. The next day, they criticized them for hitting Iran. And here's what it says. They said, President Trump demonstrated great strategic foresight and stellar statesmanship through robust diplomatic engagement with both Islamabad and New Delhi, so Pakistan in India. Which de-escalated a rapidly deteriorating situation. This intervention stands as a testament to his role as a genuine peacemaker, and they go on to say that both sides anticipated this war would go on for months with them, and both of them have nuclear arms, so this is not a good situation. They both got nuclear arms. They both thought it would go for months, and in four days, Trump stops it and shocked both sides in his ability to do that, which is why they nominated him. Now they get ticked because I ran. And Pakistan have things going together and so that there's 10 point, they backed off. But even look where else he's a spokesman. He is now the global spokesman on what's going between Ukraine and Russia. It's not Putin and it's not Zelensky. I mean, Trump is the one you will go to if you wanna know what's happening. 

Tim Barton [00:07:21] Well, and yeah, to say spokesman, not to give somebody the wrong idea, he's like the global announcer. Yeah, that's right. He's your play-by-play man, but because... I, guys, I'm more and more impressed when, when he came to the podium over the weekend and was announcing what had happened with them dropping the bombs that we dropped over in Iran. When you look behind and you saw Pete Hegseth on the right and then Marco Rubio, and then there was Trump up at the microphone, the podium, and then was JD Vance, those three guys behind him are just incredible men made for this moment, very much along the lines of what Mordecai told Esther to some extent where, hey, this is your moment, you, you stand. And, just to be clear. If you don't, God will bring deliverance from somewhere else, but who knows, but that you've been brought into the kingdom for such a time as this. When you look at the role, for example, Marco Rubio has played, because he's the one doing so much of these conversations and navigating with so many of these nations. I am, more impressed with him than I was any time before, and we've known him for decades. I say decades, it could be 18 years, I don't know. It's been a long time that we have known Marco Rubio when we do pastors briefings up in Washington, DC, he was a guy that not unusual. He was a normal guest to come and talk to the pastors, some of the faith perspective and how people of faith should be involved in the process and how his faith was motivating him and a lot of what he did, but to see him in this position where he has the courage and backbone that when we look at some of these pastors around the nation, and we are seeing these pastors not have courage and backbone, well, I found where theirs went and they all went to Marco Rubio, who now has the backbone of hundreds of men standing incredibly strong and courageous, dealing with these nations, navigating on behalf of America, but also what president Trump has shown is on behalf people in general, that president Trump as has worked very hard to do things that protect life. And this is why also even with the strikes that America executed, These were not targeting, these bombs did not target anything political. They didn't target any military structures where there was a lot of troops. Now that I'm sure in this nuclear facility that very well, there were some people that were there, but these were not strikes intended or directed at people. In fact, they were done in such a way to minimize casualty with the greatest impact of what they were trying to accomplish. President Trump has shown himself over and over and the team he has put around him. Are carrying through that same vision of bringing peace between nations. Let's find a better way, a better diplomatic position. And America has been able to use the leverage of the American economy and various other factors in helping bring peace to these nations. President Trump absolutely should be renominated by somebody else, like this week, for what he has helped do, even again with Israel and Iran helping bring a ceasefire. Between two nations that, again, if you back up several years and say, President Trump is going to help bring a ceasefire between Israel and Iran. And we'd have thought you're kind of crazy because we know some of the extremist terrorists that are over in Iran, and we know how loyal and dedicated and defending her own nation Israel is, that this doesn't seem likely at all, and yet President Trump and his team, God has used them yet again to help bringing peace in pretty remarkable ways. 

David Barton [00:10:51] Well, it's significant to me that when you look at what happened, um, just in the last two to three days and what's happened with what the Israel did, you now have an Iran that no longer has global aspirations. It doesn't even have regional aspirations with what it is. Now it can, it'll do really good just to rule its own country. And that's going to be a big thing for it now. 

Tim Barton [00:11:15] Well, and dad, I might say we should replace aspiration with ability, right? Yeah, that's right. Cause I mean, there probably is, right. The, the, the Attala who's there, he probably does have aspirations, global regional aspirations, but capability? No, capability has been entirely stripped from them. And even what we are seeing with some of the other political leaders of Iran coming out and acknowledging what president Trump has done has helped issue in or usher in. What could be a regime change for them, calling for some of that change to take place and happen and the fact that we are now at a place where the bad guys might not maintain power and position in Iran is the reason that many people thought when, when this comes to a conclusion, just like when the Berlin Wall fell and it changed Europe, the falling of the terrorist stronghold politically of Iran, it could change the entire region the same way that the collapse of the Berlin Wall changed Europe, this could do the same thing over in the Middle East. 

David Barton [00:12:19] Well, think of the groups that are no longer dependent on Iran because I ran can't help them anymore. You have the Houthis, you have Hezbollah, you have Hamas, you have the groups in Syria and Lebanon that have been trying to create civil war. Both of those places, they've all been getting their stuff from Iran. Iran is going to do really good just to have stuff for itself and its own people, much less for any other nation. And certainly their armaments and capabilities are so um, so destroyed to such a degree that they really can't afford to give anything. Well, and by the way, I don't know how to characterize this except just as funny. And I think Trump almost really took it that way, but Iran in a last gas to kind of keep their dignity. They, they had to do something to show their people that there's, they still have some retaliation left. So the president of Iran said, hey, I'm going to fire 14 rockets at you, but I just want you to know they're coming. And so the piece that Trump put out, this is what Trump said. Trump said, Iran has officially responded to our obliteration of their nuclear facilities with a very weak response, which we expected, and we have very effectively countered. There have been 14 missiles fired, 13 were knocked down and one was set free because it was headed in a non-threatening direction. He says, Iran is gotten it all out of the system and there will be hopefully no further hate. And then he thanks them for giving him early warning. Whether they directly contacted the U.S Or whether some reports say they went to Qatar and, and Qatar is one of our allies. They're not on great relations with Iran, but somehow word got to the U.S. And clearly Iran knew it was going to get to the US and they gave it to somebody who got it there and say, hey, we're going to shoot some rockets at you, just let you know, don't, don't go crazy on this. It's just the fact that, that Trump has, brought it to that point. To where that they believe him that if they had come after us, he would have taken them out, which he warned them after he hit that, that, you know, that depot, that nuclear stuff don't, don't even think about coming after us. And this is just, it's humorous to me. And like you said, hopefully they gotten it all out of their system now. 

Rick Green [00:14:27] Yeah, it almost felt like a last Hail Mary, right? That was a, they're going to throw the long bomb to try to get the touchdown in the end zone, but clearly not going to score that and then back off though. Well, all right guys, some really good news. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. You're listening to The WallBuilder Show. 

Rick Green [00:16:48] Welcome back to The WallBuilders Show. Rick Green here with David Barton and Tim Barton. And also be sure to visit our website today. I mentioned it at the top of the hour, but wallbuilders.show if you've missed any radio programs, wallbuilder.com so you can stay informed on all these items and get that in-depth learning as well. Lots of great tools and resources for you there. And then of course, announcements about all of our events coming up throughout the rest of this year. So guys, this was an incredibly surgical strike. Amazing what actually happened. We covered a little bit of that. Yesterday I heard I heard Ed Rush, you know former fighter pilot on on flashpoint describing all the details of it I was just amazed at the technology that was used here 

David Barton [00:17:23] Oh, it's crazy. And by the way, not only the technology, the precision bombing that went, you know, Tim mentioned yesterday, I watched Maverick and top gun Maverik and, and it's kind of like the precision bomb. I mean that they had to get those two missiles, miracle one and miracle two in order for that thing to blow up underground. And it was kind of that, that situation, by the way, uh, Israel, the position bombing capability of Israel is amazing. As is America. I saw one of the reports that I thought was really humorous that Israel instead. They targeted literally the gates on one of the prisons so that they let the political prisoners out of the prison. They didn't go to the prison, they blew from the air, they targeted a missile that blew the gates off the prison so the prisoners could escape. So all these political prisoners in Iran, Israel just freed them from the error with the bomb, that kind of precision. The one that got me was thinking about, because I was looking at what Iran was doing to protect their nuclear facilities and a lot of these centrifuges that were spinning where they were trying to get the concentrate together. And it was 200 feet inside a mountain and the mountain literally is rock. I mean, it is not a sand mountain, it's not a Sand Dunes, it's rock. And I was just considering, okay, you have detonation fuses on the front of these bombs and when they hit, they go off. How do you get a bomb that bores through 200 feet of rock and then blows up at the right point inside that cavern. Just the technology of how do you do that? And so I got digging around on this and it was really pretty fun. They've come to call this a bunker buster bomb. It goes all the way back to World War II. In World War II, the British developed the first bunker busters that would not detonate when they hit the ground. They would penetrate into the ground, now they couldn't go very far, but they came up with this idea. And then nobody really used it. We used it once in Korea. So America came up with the Bunker Buster, we used once in Korean, and then it flat wasn't used again until Desert Storm. And then Desert Storm, we started into getting some, because Saddam Hussein had a lot of stuff buried underground, and so we started using Bunkers Busters. And so where we are now, there's three different kinds of Bunker Busters that America has. One will go about five feet in the rock before it blows up. One will about 20 feet and blow up. And then this one. Goes about 200 feet into the rock. So this thing is so stinking big. There's only one plane in the entire American military fleet that's capable of carrying this bomb is the B2 stealth. Each bomb and each B2 had two bombs. So they each there were you had total three sites hit and each were hit with two bombs and so each bomb weighs 15 tons. One bomb is 15 tons and the length of the bomb, it's over 20 feet long and it is 31 inches in diameter. So nearly three feet thick and 20 feet long and it weighs 30,000 pounds. I mean, just carrying it is unbelievable. 

Tim Barton [00:20:30] That's pretty remarkable for something.  I almost expect you to say something significantly larger than three foot thick for it to be 30,000 pounds which means that the density on that and certainly based on the details of what it's made out of, I've seen a couple of videos on social media where there was descriptions of it, where people were going through part of the makeup of it and you know it's been a it's, been a couple years since I had chemistry, so I understood everything they were saying but I cannot fully repeat that explanation now nonetheless. The makeup of was also quite ingenious in how it was designed and developed to be able to bore down because there, there's a couple of different models or versions of this as well as seeing also, online with some military explanations. There's some that there can be explosions partway down that then forces it, the overall bomb to go down even further. So they have different understanding and development of this. Based on how far they need this thing to go down, they can build this in such a way that they can make it keep drooling down to whatever depth they need it before it detonates. Again, just amazing. 

David Barton [00:21:47] Yeah, it is crazy. And I was looking at some of that technology too. And they, they get this stuff to hypersonic speed. Some of them actually have jets on the end of it to make it get to such a speed. And it goes back to the old Kung Fu movies. If you remember Kung Fu, this was probably way before you guys were thinking about it. It's more back like when I was in high school and college, it was the big sport and it was a ledge that man, you could take your finger or two fingers and with such force you could hit that you could penetrate a person's body going and take out organs just because you hit with so much concentrated force at a small point, and that's essentially what they've done with these rockets. And so they go down, but now here's what I found really interesting, and this explains something to me about what Israel's been doing with this precision bombing, but they have these things that have microphones inside the rockets and microcontrollers inside the rockets. And so you can hit, let's say a 10 story building, and you say, I don't want you to blow up until you get to the third floor. And as it goes through the floors, the microphone counts the number of floors it goes through and it will detonate on the third floor. And so they literally sit this stuff where, okay, we want you to go in the window, you're gonna go through three walls and then blow up on the fourth room back. And it's just unbelievable to me how they've been able to make this technology so precise and so exact to do maximum damage with as few casualties as they do. 

Tim Barton [00:23:13] Well, and dad, along those lines with precision, earlier I think I heard you mention that the bombing that blew the doors off Iran's most notorious prison was America. It's actually Israel. I was looking that up just to get a few more details. 

David Barton [00:23:26] No, if I said America, yeah, if said America it was Israel. Israel did that. 

Tim Barton [00:23:30] Either way, and you might've said it right, and I might've just heard America because there's a lot of moving parts we're trying to even say up to date as there's breaking news happening all throughout the day. So you might have said it, right. But I found a video, it's security camera seven that actually shows that gate where the explosion happened. And so when I saw it, it said Israel. And for whatever reason, I thought you said America, but just again, back to the idea, the technologies come so far that with with technology, these bombs can be so stinking precise that it can do what needs to be done. And in the midst of taking out whatever it's a nuclear facility and capabilities, or if it's taking the doors off a prison, they can do this and bring the greatest level of effectiveness they need with the minimal amount of damage when they don't want any peripheral damage. It really is amazing far we've come.

David Barton [00:24:27]  So you've had the Revolutionary Guard that I think they're gonna decide. I think, they're gonna decide what happens inside Iran. It's not gonna be from the outside and you know from the very beginning Trump has said we're after the military capabilities. We're gonna destroy them. That's what Israel said, that's what Netanyahu said. They could have targeted the Ayatollah, they could have targeted the president of Iran. They took out the nuclear scientists, they took out the military leaders. So it's not like they're trying to overthrow the government, they're trying to stop the capabilities. And if the people themselves want to come in and have a new, new leader overthrow the government, that's going to be between them and the revolutionary guard. But that's not been the objective. I think of either Israel or America, that that's gonna be up to the people to settle, settle their own stuff and their own nation. I think this is quiet and down Syria. I think it's quiet and done Lebanon, but you know, even over the weekend, I think Tim mentioned this yesterday. Individual bomber started popping up a Christian church in Syria got hit yesterday, uh, 35 people killed in that church. Just an individual suicide bomber went in. So you've got all these radicals that are going to try to do something, make their point, however that is, and that's going to go on, but as far as actually having government involved, I don't, I know there's going to be regime change unless it comes from the revolutionary guard, but we'll see, but I think the middle East is a much more stable place now than it's been in decades in our lifetimes. 

Rick Green [00:25:55] Yeah, it could be that that president Trump is showing restraint in his rhetoric on, on that, right? Like he may obviously really want a regime change to take place, but that's a smart place for him to draw the line in terms of what he's projecting out there, in the things that he's saying. And I think that's a big part of what we need to be praying for. Is that president trouble know exactly where to draw the lines and, and when to act and when not to, we've talked about this on the program several times, trusting the guy in the room that we've hired to, to do this job and, just thanking God again. In fact, let's close out with that. That quote from George Washington, whereas it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey his will, to be grateful for his benefits, and humbly to implore his protection and favor. Thank you, Lord, for a president that is also saying how much he loves you and is calling out for your protection. Thanks for listening today, folks. You've been listening to The WallBuilders Show.