Rick Green: 0:11

Welcome to the intersection of faith and the culture! It's WallBuilders we're taking on the hot topics of the day from a Biblical, historical and Constitutional perspective. Thanks for joining us today. Well you know you can be a part of this by going to the wWallbuilders.com where you can make a donation and you can get some good materials to study with your family, with with your with your co workers, you can actually host a Constitution Class, Biblical Citizenship in Modern America, at your church, home, work wherever. We even have a lunch break version of it now so we're making it easier and easier for you to be the catalyst for a restoration of Biblical values and Constitutional principles. Check it out at Wallbuilders.com. Alright David and Tim we've got later in the program, John Amanchukwu back with us. But listen, there is good news out of California, another School Board another one that the good people stood up and said enough is enough, we're taking over and said "no" to the woke nonsense throughout the folks that had been on the school board elected a new School Board willing to say "no" to the woke stuff. And and John was out there testifying at their at their school board meeting. And so we're gonna get him on to talk about it. But I'm just excited to see more and more of the School Board's turn it around.

Tim Barton: 1:16

It has been really encouraging. And you know, guys, we've done a lot of stuff with different groups and organizations around the nation that have been promoting this, The Moms For Liberty, the Moms For America, there's several groups and organizations, even in local states, that aren't necessarily national groups, but that are targeting the same thing, recognizing the opportunity, but also the necessity based on what's happening in culture, what's happening in some of these schools. For people paying attention on social media, there are some conservative social media accounts. And all they do is try to expose the actual videos, the actual online content that some of these progressive liberal crazy woke teachers were posting, where they're openly acknowledging and bragging about some of this nonsense. And conservatives are saying, "hey, just you know, so parents are aware, here's what they're saying they're doing." And it's led a movement for parents to get involved. And so we're seeing so many levels. And Rick, I remember seeing John, a social media video, it took off, and I didn't even recognize who it was at first, because the way that somebody had shared it, but there was an individual [who] walks up to a microphone, and he says, there's 10 things that black people don't need. And he starts going through this list. And it's just, it's like hammering against all of this woke nonsense going on. And I thought, man, that is such a good list. I didn't really see that was it first, come to find out. It's our buddy John. And I thought this is exactly what more and more people need to hear in the conversation and in this movement is, as we've just seen from the Supreme Court saying that Affirmative Action with it being overruled, and it not being a primary factor when it comes to bringing people in for universities, etc, and how it's actually being used now to leverage against other students, so many things that have been argued and articulated by the left for actually decades has been proven to be very ineffective, and actually detrimental in most situations on some of these ideas where they'd been applied. And so it was so refreshing to hear John go down his list of things that people shouldn't do. Rick, we talked about the fact that we recently had him on the program. I thought, no, we need to gethim back anyway, to talk about this list, because this is such an important thought that is challenging the status quo and especially what a lot of liberals and leftists are promoting needs to be done an education that again, we know is not beneficial and ultimately detrimental to so many young people.

Rick Green: 3:45

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Tim Barton: 4:53

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Rick Green: 5:54

Welcome back to WallBuilders. Thanks for staying with us. Great to have you John Amanchukwu back with us! Pastor, God bless you, man, thanks for some time again.

John Amanchukwu: 6:01

Thank you, Rick, for having me on the show, again. It's been a wonderful ride, traveling the country and speaking truth to power. I'm enjoying what the Lord is doing...

Rick Green: 6:11

Well, he's blessing what you're doing as well. We're seeing big changes happen all over the place. And I love every time you get up in front of one of these school boards, and just let them have it, man. I mean, you're just, you're not holding back on the truth. Before we jump into this Temecula, California one. Eraced, the book, how's it going, man? I mean, we're... I'm hearing people talking about it all over the country.

John Amanchukwu: 6:36

Yes, it's going well, this book has struck a nerve, you know, because a black man is not supposed to address critical race theory. I'm supposed to use critical race theory to benefit me.

Rick Green: 6:47

But wait, wait, I thought they said you weren't black anymore!?

John Amanchukwu: 6:49

Well, you know what, man it goes back and forth, sometimes. You know, right now, they're calling me a white supremacist. So I'm a white brother, Rick, you know, I'm trying to get used to this whole white thing. You know, and so if I'm not doing it too well, just let me know, Rick.

Rick Green: 7:05

Yeah. Are you having trouble snapping the music now? Is there like a, you know, lack of rhythm? I mean, you getting all the whiteness disease stuff, right?

John Amanchukwu: 7:15

Yes, but you know, I can't clap on rhythm anymore, but I'm on time to all of my meetings. How about that?

Rick Green: 7:20

Oh my goodness! Oh I can't believe it! All right. We got to go to California here, which always stops all the laughter because it's such a disaster out there. But Temecula, California they had... and normally not not a real liberal town, I don't think. I remember going to Constitution Class there years ago, but the left took over their School Board, they started doing all this work stuff. Sounds like there's a good change there and you went and testified on some of the nonsense that was in the books there as well. So catch us up on on what happened at this last one, because this got written up all over the place?

John Amanchukwu: 8:01

Yes, so the school board had voted not to allow some curriculum materials that included the legacy of Harvey Milk, who is a known pedophile, who at the age of 33, slept with a young boy, he sodomized him. And so the school board leaders didn't want his legacy to be lifted up. And kudos to them for doing so. So I went to speak at the school board about that, at the meeting about that. But while sitting there, during the school board meeting, and before it, I did some interviews with some people on the left. And I noticed that they kept making a comparison between the struggle of blacks in America through slavery and the Jim Crow era, and what homosexuals are going through today in the LGBTQ community with their discrimination. And so that thing just rubbed me the wrong way. Because you know, Rick, I didn't choose to be a black man in America, although they're calling me a white man. I didn't choose to be black, but a person chooses whatever sexual behavior they practice. You know, you choose to sleep with a man if you're a man, you choose to sleep with a woman, if you're a woman, that is a choice, but my blackness and or my newly found whiteness is not a choice.

Rick Green: 9:17

Right. And it's also a behavior versus an innate characteristic, right?

John Amanchukwu: 9:21

Exactly. That's the point. You just hit the nail on the head. And so while sitting in the meeting, you know, I was vexed and filled with righteous indignation. So I put together 10 things that black students don't need. And listen, people are angry with me. I'm an Uncle Tom. They're calling me black trash, which I've never heard of black trash before. But here's the 10 things that I told them. I said number one, we don't need affirmative action. Number two, we don't need equity. Number three, we don't need to be pandered to. Number four we don't need you to dumb down test scores in order for us to thrive. Number five, we don't need a school system promoting a victim mentality. Number six, we don't need the soft bigotry of low expectations. Number seven, we don't need critical race theory. Number eight, we don't need reparations or any more welfare state and we know the impact of welfare states upon the marriage rate in the black community. And then number nine, I mentioned we don't need to be propped up as the darlings of the LGBTQ community like Dwayne Wade's son, Zaire, I said that. Number 10, we don't need white liberals. Here's the one that I think this really, really got to their heart, that cut their heart. We don't need white liberals telling us that they know what is best for the black community.

Rick Green: 10:51

Amen, wow! You could have just done one of those and probably been attacked you but you went for all 10 of them. I love the fact that you just sat there in the meeting, you're like, yeah, no, we don't need this don't eat and then boom, here it is the list of 10 It goes all over the place. In fact, we're going to do a link to the Washington Times article today, where they break this down. And and I can only imagine the hate mail, you're getting as a result, how did the room respond? When you said that at the meeting?

John Amanchukwu: 11:18

You know, people had rocks in their jaws or looked as if they were sucking on a lemon? You know, because a black man is not allowed to think this way. People are telling me now that my wife has to be white. Okay, because in order for a black man to not want to be pandered to, or someone to push the soft bigotry of low expectations upon him. He's got to have a white wife who the white supremacist and so therefore I'm sleeping with Master. Okay. This is just foolish. And it's white people who are telling me this, white liberals, but it's also black, female liberals, you know, who are telling me this and it's foolish. It's condescending towards blacks. In order for a black man to think along the lines of accountability, working with his hands, you know, and not living off of the government, you know, that I have to be white. You know, I take offense to that. I'm not a white man. I'm a black man. I don't try to make a God out of my skin tone. But I did want to send a clear statement that white liberals think that they own and monopolize blacks, and it's true, it's true. And I'm not going to stop saying it. They can call me whatever they want to call me. But I'm not going to stop pushing this truth upon them. Because they are false. They are liars.

Rick Green: 12:44

Ah, man, I love it. I love it. I wish we had like three hours. Folks, you need to dive into this EracedBook.com EracedBook.com is where you can get John's book and dive into more of this. John, so many directions we could go with this. I got to back up to Harvey Milk. I remember when they made this guy, a hero and they started teaching, you know, all kinds of stuff, you know, trying to hold him up as some great hero and all that and very few people spoke out against it based on exactly what you said earlier. What about that one? How do people respond to that? And have you been talking about that other places as well?

John Amanchukwu: 13:22

Well, yes, I have. You know, I received a message from a gentleman and he was very, very angry with me. We'll make them famous, his name is Brent Flannery. He said, you are a garbage human being, you're hateful and now a loser. Keep your hate out of our schools. This is what he said. He said Harvey Milk will be taught and gay rights will be taught. So that's the response that I'm receiving from people who are of that community. They want the legacy of Harvey Milk to be capitalized. I don't know what love chord or string that white liberals and people on the left have towards pedophiles. I just don't get it, Rick. I mean, why are why are we propping up a man who soddomized a boy? I don't get it. It doesn't make any sense to me, and this is why I'm on mission. I'm on task by God to travel to every school board possible in some of the wokest and darkest cities and preach the truth, preach with conviction and remind them that God is concerned about his children. You know, Scripture tells us that it's better for a man to be thrown into a sea with a millstone tied around his neck than for us to do harm to a child and we are harming our children. We have mental rapists, mental rapists, who want to ruin and destroy the minds of our children and we must push back. So I'm asking people to go to EracedBook.com . That's EracedBook.com , purchase a copy of my book. Make a donation so that I can get to more school boards. I'm a black man slash white man on a mission, trying to save America trying to fight against critical race theory, intersectionality gender theory, queer theory, all of this wokeness. Support me in this effort.

Rick Green: 15:33

You know, the only problem I have with all of that is that I was thinking it'd be kind of cool for us to do the ebony and ivory tour and you go do... now you could do an ebony and ivory tour by yourself. You can be the black guy and the white guy at the same time. It's crazy. Listen, you just hit on the core issue when you talk about teaching and speaking truth. They lift up these pedophiles and this evil because of moral relativism, no moral clarity, anything goes, you know, and we warned about this, that it would... that we would go off the cliff once we had no right and wrong. And the moral clarity with which you stand up and say these things, I think is why these videos go so incredibly viral. And because everybody's hungry for it. They're tired of this shifting sand, they want something to stand on and I got to ask you about the young people and their response to you because we tend to think in the church, "we can't stand firm on anything, because you'll run everybody off." I think it draws them in, and I'm wondering if you're seeing and hearing the same thing?

John Amanchukwu: 16:35

Yes. You know, I've been traveling the country also speaking at churches and doing the work at my local church with our youth group. There are many young people, young adults and Gen Z who admire the work that I'm doing, you know, because they all long to be a part of something that's bigger than them. And we have the answer, it's the Kingdom. it's walking in righteousness, it's walking in truth. And so many of them are celebrating me they want to take pictures with me. They tell me that I'm a superhero. And I'm a celebrity now and I oftentimes tell them I'm not a celebrity, I'm a servant because celebrities do it for their own self aggrandizement but I'm doing this for the kingdom and for God. And so yes, I'm lauded amongst the younger generation, and that's significant, because they can see that we are in a war between good and evil.

Rick Green: 17:32

Yeah. And that's exactly my point. If they... if the if the manzi-pansy, you know, let's be nice and never call out evil or any of that crowd was right, then you would be a repellent to those young people. And instead, they're going, man, finally, somebody speaking truth, somebody that I can can get clarity... because they're, I just think they're, I mean, they're hungry for something to grab a hold of, they want something to stand on that's firm. And that's one of the truths set you free, but you got to know truth to do that EracedBook.com , EracedBook.com and I know some of you that listen, every day, you're like, didn't you just have John on to talk about... Yeah, but man, I mean, it just gets better and better and better. And this Temecula thing, I think is a great example. John, remind us... they, I mean, they they got active and took that school board back. And that's why they were able to take this stand. Did you get a chance to visit with any of those activists that did this or the new school board members? And I know they're coming under attack, even Gavin Newsom and the rest going after them. Tell us a little bit about how it changed there in Temecula.

John Amanchukwu: 18:35

Yes. Well, you know, the church had a bright idea, Rick, they said, You know what, we're going to be the church. We're going to be the church, we're going to push back. And so a pastor by the name of Pastor Tim Thompson of 412 Temecula. He created a pack, and did some training with future board candidates and raised a ton of money to help get some people elected. You know, the church said, you know, we're not going to sit idly by and allow weirdos and perverts to dominate our school system and pervert our children. And so this has created a revival in Temecula. And there are so many people now who are standing up who were once silent. I met with so many Christian leaders and people who led grassroots organizations in Temecula, and they are all on fire. And I believe that what took place in Temecula, in that the church got on the front lines and got out of the bleachers and went into the stadium and said let's fight. I believe that this can take place in every city in America. But we need a David and we need some Deborah's to lead.

Rick Green: 19:51

Amen brother, amen. And they're out there. They're in every community. What happened there in Temecula could happen all over this country, if the church gets engaged, if it gets if it wakes up and it starts speaking truth. John, you're always getting me so excited. I mean, I love it, man, I get to laugh, have fun, but also be in the fight. And on the frontlines. You got that joy that comes only from our salvation and yet that righteous anger being channeled in the right direction to make a difference, it's why we love having you on man, let's get you back soon.

John Amanchukwu: 20:19

Hey, thank you so much. I appreciate your support.

Rick Green: 20:21

Alright folks, EracedBook.com and we'll be right back with David and Tim Barton, stay with us.

Tim Barton: 20:34

Hey, guys, we want to let you know about a new resource we have at WallBuilders called The American Story. For so many years, people have asked us to do a history book to help tell more of the story that’s just not known or not told today. And we would say very providentially in the midst of all of the new attacks coming out against America, whether it be from things like the 1619 project that say America is evil, and everything in America was built off slavery, which is certainly not true or things, like even the Black Lives Matter movement, the organization itself, not out the statement Black Lives Matter, but the organization that says we’re against everything that America was built on, and this is part of the Marxist ideology. There’s so many things attacking America. Well, is America worth defending? What is the true story of America? We actually have written and told that story starting with Christopher Columbus, going roughly through Abraham Lincoln, we tell the story of America not as the story of a perfect nation of a perfect people. But the story of how God used these imperfect people and did great things through this nation. It’s a story you want to check out, wallbuilders.com, The American Story.

Rick Green: 21:36

We're back here on WallBuilders. Thanks for staying with us. Thanks to John Amanchkwu for joining us and for going to California as well as South Carolina and all these other places he's gone to testify at the school board meetings. It's making a difference. Because every time he talks to that group, it influences that school. But then those videos go viral and we see it all over the country. So I'm glad to see us turning a school board around. And I'm glad to seeing some truth being spoken and then share it across the

David Barton: 21:59

Yeah, you know, Rick, you were talking earlier nation. that you recall Temecula as a fairly conservative part of the state. And it is and it was. And it's interesting that in those conservative parts of the state, and we've seen this all across rural America that conservative people thought conservative folks are running the school boards, in their conservative towns. And as it turns out, they weren't. Those people had not been involved and they just assumed other people in their town thought like they did. And that's just not the case. And so now that Temecula has a new school board, it's significant that they want a new voice, they want a new direction. They've asked John to come testify and he did and did a terrific job. Of course, it made people mad that were not conservatives that were liberals, but I've been seeing in and just recent articles that a lot of the more conservative and rural areas, had thought that they had conservative policies and found out in the last two or three years, their school boards have adopted some really radical policies, some things that did not reflect that community and so they've gotten back involved in school board elections. And as Tim mentioned, Moms for Liberty and Moms for America and these other groups are working together. And even as John mentioned, a number of folks got together in Temecula, a bunch of different groups came together. And that's a really healthy thing for it to happen. And it really is humorous to hear John address that stuff and talk about the, you know, they were chewing rocks after he finished the stuff. But even Rick going back to what you guys were talking about the fact that he doesn't reflect that group and liberals tend to think in groups and not individuals and conservatives and Christians tend to think in terms of individuals, not groups. But the fact that you know, you can stereotype things and say, well, he's kind of lost rhythm but he's on time [to] meetings now, you know that... and it's really good to hear him talking to his communities. I love the fact that he's made this into a, I would call it a ministry, I don't know that he would, but the fact that he's willing to travel to the school boards as a black man all across the country and address this kind of nonsense is good. And that's a great reason, as he mentioned to buy his book, which is way of financing for him to go be the voice in these communities and say things that you and I could never get away with saying.

Tim Barton: 23:58

I would then assume as a pastor, he would definitely view this as a ministry. And so this is something that you know, Dad, just to that point that this is something that as he's going and communicating these values, as you mentioned, for a lot of Christians and conservatives, this is something that should be pretty commonplace. And unfortunately, even though we can look and see that oftentimes you see liberals and leftists that want to be more group oriented, they want to put people in groups and value based on groups. Unfortunately, we're seeing way too often Christians and conservatives embracing that mantra. Dad, to your point, that it's not something that is part of a traditional conservative perspective. It's not something that is part of a biblical perspective because in God's economy, there is no classes, there are no groups, there is no male or female. There's no Jew or Greek or Scythian or slave or free because we are all one in Christ. And it's much more of a Marxist, socialist, communist ideology that says the value of the individual is based on the group or even that would argue the validity of the argument is is based on the person making the argument. This is definitely something that is one of those logical fallacies when you have a conversation with someone, one of the more one of the more common misdirections is the ad hominem attack where if you're having a conversation with someone, and they don't like it, all of a sudden, they want to accuse you of being a terrible person. They say, well, you're transphobic, and you're racist, or whatever the case might be, whatever title they want to malign you with. But it's one of those misdirects. It's being intellectually dishonest because it's not engaging in the conversation. Well, one of the things that is also one of these tools that oftentimes liberals and leftists use, is the position of power and authority. And so if you're not a woman, you don't have a uterus, then you can't speak to the issue of reproductive rights or abortion, etc. So it's a little ironic that now they're, going to say that he's not really a black man, because if he's a black man, then it gives credibility in their mind that he can make these statements they have to call him a white man or something else. It's utterly ludicrous. But what it tells us is that they are not able to win based on the argument, therefore they have to change and alter the attack on the individual. Nonetheless, this is incredible news, what John is doing and we definitely would encourage people to find that book.

Rick Green: 26:06

EracedBook.com is the website EracedBook.com , you can get the book there. Book John in to come speak if you want to have some of that power at your local school board. What a great opportunity. I'm sure you could convince John to come in and speak at your local school board as well and have him speak your church or at your gathering at the same time as well. So good stuff, there. Check it out EracedBook.com and that's Eracedbook.com . Thanks for listening to Wallbuilders.