Rick Green: 0:11

Welcome to intersection of faith and the culture. Thanks for joining us today on WallBuilders. We're taking on the hot topics of the day from a biblical, historical and constitutional perspective, we appreciate you being a part of the program today by listening. But we also want you to take action, which means when this program is over, share it with your friends and family, take the program and share it out there on social media on email, however, you can get it in the hands of as many people as possible, especially, today. I mean, we say that almost every day, right? But today, this program, I'm telling you, this is a big, big deal, it's going to have a huge impact on your life, on my life on our children, our grandchildren. So we need to do everything we can to be a voice of reason, and get some of this information in the hands of the people that aren't hearing it anywhere else. I'm telling you that it's so hard to find truth these days. By the way, I'm Rick Green America's constitution coach and former Texas legislator. I'm here with David Barton and Tim Barton. David is, of course, America's premier historian. He's our founder here at WallBuilders. Tim Barton, national speaker and pastor and president of WallBuilders. And we are thankful for you joining us, check us out at our website, WallBuilders.com and make that one time or monthly contribution there come alongside us, help us reach as many people as possible with truth. Alright, David and Tim, we got to Michelle Bachman, former congresswoman from Minnesota going to be with us here in a little while. She's over at Regent University now, but she's been at the World Health Organization or summit that they've been doing trying to basically take over health care and Pandemic control for the whole world. And so we'll get a report from her on that. Is it surprising to you guys that American leaders would not want to have control, like where'd the self interest part go, where everybody wants to have the power themselves? Why are they so willing to give this up to an international organization?

Tim Barton: 1:47

I don't think any conservatives and Republicans are promoting this. I say that, maybe there's a couple that would be supportive of this. But they definitely are not conservative, they might be Republican, they're not conservative. Certainly this is a position when you look at Democrats that have been promoting the growth of government. And especially when you look back to President Obama, when his notion, when he went on the apology tour for America, and his kind of anti American exceptionalism talk when he said America is no more special than any other nation, we're all special in our own special ways. And there's been a move by progressive Democrat leftists, to... make an attempt to dethrone America, in Americans' eyes, but also on the world stage, saying America shouldn't be a world leader. And we should all just be in this together. And we're one big team, and we're going to do things together. So it's not surprising to me to see the Biden administration follow suit with what I think the Obama administration was promoting many years ago. So it's not a surprise to me. Again, there's probably a few Republicans that I could see getting behind this on some level. But this is definitely not a conservative position. And it's not a traditional American independence position by any regards.

David Barton: 2:57

And, also notice that it's just about health care, we're just ceding control of healthcare to the World Health Organization. Recall, COVID, two and a half, three years ago, every single aspect of our life is controlled by health care, what we could do with worship, what we could do with speech, what we could do with education, what we could do with movement around the country, what we do with our own jobs, we lost all of that, under the guise of doing health care. So this is not a small step they're talking about, this is one of the steps toward complete control.

Tim Barton: 3:26

And I think one of the things too worth pointing out is when people look at this, maybe some of the advocates that are saying, hey, it's not that bad. And I don't think probably most those people are listening to our show, because probably they recognize this is a really, really bad thing. But there will be some people out there saying, guys, it's not that big a deal. It's only in times of crisis, it's only a health emergency. This is where it's also important to point out that there is vagueness, there is a level of subjectivity to how do we define a health emergency, because COVID was a health emergency until we realized what COVID was, until we realized how COVID is certainly dangerous, but it's dangerous to to people of a certain age demographic with certain comorbidities and certain health conditions. It's not actually dangerous for the average American that is young, and that is healthy, and that is active. And how do we define... who determines what a health emergency is? And this is where it should be increasingly concerning when we're in a world in an era where you have this notion of just follow the science, but really what we mean is follow the scientist and when you have scientists that are literally on the payroll from Pfizer, right? When we know that Dr. Fauci is actually getting a pay back from Pfizer for some of what they are doing, the money they're making. He's getting a kickback from them, when you have scientists that are leading the movement, that are making money from big pharma and from these vaccine producers, and they're the ones that get to determine when a crisis is, there's a lot of reason we should be concerned. Because even though we would not have previously thought that saying a health emergency was a subjective term. We are now in an era where I am certainly nervous of the level of subjectivity there is when a scientist can come in and say, ooh, guys health scare! Flu season coming up, we need to lock things down for flu season! Who determines what a crisis and emergency is in these scenarios.

David Barton: 5:17

And the other thing that goes with that is even Zuckerberg is admitting now that on Facebook, they shut down a lot of misinformation that turned out to be correct and turned out to be right. The misinformation they shut down was stuff that was opposed by the World Health Organization. So you also lose freedom when you have control going into one entity and they control the information that goes in and comes out. At that point, you don't have medical freedom anymore. So there's a lot of unintended consequences that go with this thing. Now, I think they're unintended consequences, it may be full well that Biden knows exactly what he's doing with this. But I think that the American people don't fully understand what's happening with this.

Tim Barton: 5:51

Well, I don't know if Biden knows full well what he's doing with this, but I think somebody in his administration somebody is more...

Rick Green: 5:58

Not sure Biden knows anything full well, right? No, I mean, you guys are right. I mean, there's definitely an agenda somewhere to be pushing this in the way that we are as a nation anyway. And certainly as the Biden administration. Well, Michelle is out there on the front lines, she's been talking to people, she went and observed these, all of these gatherings, the amendments, all that kind of stuff. So we'll get an update from Michelle Bachman, stay with us Folks, you're listening to WallBuilders.

Tim Barton: 6:35

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Rick Green: 7:32

Welcome back to WallBuilders. Thanks for staying with us. Always good to have former Congresswoman Michele Bachmann with us now Dean over at the Robertson School of Government and kind of just new investigative reporter. Michelle, thank you so much for going over and covering the World Health Organization. And this complete disaster the Biden administration is creating with these folks. This is huge, and people just don't know about it. So thank you for bringing attention to it. And thanks for coming on the program to talk about it.

Michele Bachmann: 7:56

Well thank you. You're exactly right. The mainstream media, social media, cable news, they're not covering this story. And it's one of the biggest stories of our time. And it's being led by the Biden administration, who weirdly want to hand over authority and power to declare emergencies over health care from the United States to the World Health Organization. So just like over three years, we lived under emergency powers. We saw essentially our constitutional and our Bill of Rights suspended in many ways. Now President Biden wants to give this level of power to the World Health Organization and not just for the United States. He wants all 194 member nations of the world health organization, which is the health care arm of the United Nations, he wants all of them, to give over their authority to declare an emergency, which effectively creates a platform for the first time in history, for global government. We've never seen this before. But this is what happened when I was in Geneva, Switzerland the last week or so, in May, and absent any intervention, this is going to happen. There wasn't one nation that objected of the 194. They all were were agreement, and next year, at this time, they will have this done unless there's some sort of intervening.

Rick Green: 9:25

Wow. It's actually mind boggling. I mean, if we think the, you know, local petty tyrants in our counties, and in our state health departments and the hospitals and all the things that happened over the last three... we think that was bad, I mean, imagine if essentially, the Chinese are, I mean, they're, you know, Trump called this out, back in 2020, that WHO was essentially Chinese controlled, would be making the decisions for us as individuals, I mean, literally our physical health decisions made by an international organization. I would have thought that you and I were, you know, tinfoil hat crazy people five years ago having this conversation, it's reality. It's happening.

Michele Bachmann: 10:06

It's reality. And you're right, the Communist Chinese party sees America as their number one enemy. And yet the Communist Chinese party effectively controls the World Health Organization. So why in the world would we empower the Communist Chinese to have the power to declare an emergency over the United Nations? The main question people ask me is, well Michele, how would this be enforced? How would this happen? We know how this will be enforced. This will be enforced by a global digital passport. What do I mean by that? That is, take a look at your phone and think of a QR code on your phone. And that QR code is controlled by the World Health Organization, and whatever they dictate. So if they say that you have to have so many vaccines or so many booster shots, or you have to be wearing a mask or you have to lock down, you have to be in compliance with that. So your QR code would say, if you are in compliance with what the WHO said, then you'd have the right to travel, then you'd... have the right to enter certain stores. In fact, I saw a video yesterday, this is current in England. And to get into an Aldi's grocery store, you have to have the correct QR code to get in. So that it's in compliance. And if you don't, you can't even get in the grocery store and buy food. So what happened after this meeting in Geneva, Switzerland, is one week later, the World Health Organization and the European Union, that's about 80 countries, made an announcement that the World Health Organization will be administering the global digital passport, this QR code on your phone. And they said this will be operational in June of 2023. So it's here. It's here for Europe and the WHO is controlling it. So the real question is, when will the United States join? When will we have to be in this global digital passport? And that's where most members of the House of Representatives and most members of the US Senate aren't even really aware that this is happening. And they don't understand what a big thing this is. Because once sovereignty has passed its... over decision making. It's very difficult to get it back again. And they don't believe that this will create a one world government. We've got to get our senators and our representatives to take this seriously, and demand of the Biden administration that they do not put us in a global digital passport.

Rick Green: 12:52

It's so shocking, I think people don't want to think about it. I think they hear us talk about it, and they think that's just too big. That's too crazy. It couldn't possibly be happen or like you said, how would they enforce it. And even without the digital stuff, I think about the enforcement from petty tyrant, frankly, stewardesses and waitresses, and American people that enforce this stuff.

Michele Bachmann: 13:16

We lived with that for three years, for three years! So it's almost like that was a trial run. And unfortunately, I think we flunked the test, because we complied because we thought we had to. Now, I think they're not waiting around for us to comply. Now, they're going to control us through a QR code so that we can't get on a plane, we can't go into a store and buy something unless we comply. So we need to tell our representatives and our senator, we're not doing this, we don't consent. And you cannot allow Joe Biden to do this to us.

Rick Green: 13:50

SovereigntyCoalition.org is a place people can go to get it, more information, sign the petition, make the calls to members of Congress and local legislators as well, state legislators to make sure they're aware of this. So Michele, you talked about the actions we would be expected to take to be able to shop and to travel and do all those things. And then there's also the issue of actions that if we lived out our freedoms, in other words, if we spoke out if we took a position on social media, if we said anything, share a tweet or a post or whatever that they disagree with, that's another way that they would, you know, basically cut us off basically prevent us from participating in society.

Michele Bachmann: 14:29

It is, there's 307 amendments to the International Health rules and a proposed global pandemic treaty. That's all in the process of getting synthesized right now. And when I was in Geneva, Switzerland at this last World Health Organization meeting, this is what I think your listeners won't believe, there wasn't one objection by any of the 194 countries. The year before there had been from some smaller African countries, but what it looked like, Rick is that in the meantime these countries have gotten paid off. I think it's entirely possible a lot of these countries don't really understand what they're giving up, or what they're agreeing to. But I also think a number of them were just simply paid off. And it looks like they're going to go ahead. So I think some of these countries think that they're going to get American style, health care in exchange, but they won't. It's all a lie. It's a deceit. And for those who are following their Bible and reading the Bible, this convergence of events looks an awful lot like what the prophets foretold about the end time. So this isn't something for Christians to fear. We don't fear, we don't despair. What we do is we trust that God does not abandon us. But we also, we have faith, but we join faith with action. And we let our voices be heard, because we certainly don't want to participate in any deeds of darkness. And this is a deed of darkness.

Rick Green: 15:56

Oh, it's so good. Michelle, oh it's so good, such a good word for us, especially when things are this big, and our brain just almost shuts down. You know, and you mentioned the payoff thing, and I saw the article by Newt Gingrich yesterday, where he goes through all the indictments that should have taken place. And I wasn't aware of all these university payoffs from the Chinese government, I mean, literally, like $60 million to University of Pennsylvania. $20, something I can't remember the numbers, you know, to Delaware. And these are places that Joe Biden's officials have come from, Blinken and others that literally were make... we don't know how much money they were getting from these entities. And so I, you know, I'm not trying to make up dots here to connect this stuff is actually right there for us to see.

Michele Bachmann: 16:40

Oh, it's right there, just so simple. I mean, here you have the Biden administration, you couldn't have one administration make this many foolish, terrible, tragic mistakes. It's impossible, the law of odds wouldn't allow it. But it does make sense if you understand that China views the United States of America as its biggest enemy. And so what it looks like to me is that the enemy is actually inside the camp. They bribed the doorman, and they got in, and they're calling the shots now, for the Biden administration. That's what it looks like, I can't prove it. That's what it looks like. But when you look at what's happening at the World Health Organization, this is where it jives with Scripture. And this is where you have all 194 nations seemingly willingly giving up their sovereignty, and so that in for the purpose of creating a global government platform, that will be completed before next May. And it may be operational before then it is operational for all of Europe this month. And I saw a video last night again, from England, where a man couldn't get into a grocery store unless he had the QR code. So just think, we're not talking a far off into the future, this is this year when this fight is happening. And that's why our members of the House our members of the Senate, any local or state officials that we have, we need to raise this with them and tell them, we do not give our consent that our lives are going to be tracked, traced, surveilled and controlled by a QR code that's run by Communist China.

Rick Green: 18:23

And so many other things that you and David and others have brought attention to on ESG and DEI and how this you know, even if you think oh, I'm in a, you know, I'm in a really red state, we'll say no to this now, this stuff... the tangled web here goes into your banking, you know, controlling your money, you can't get loans. You can't... I mean, it is so connected out there, we have to stand up and say no to this and get our government to say no to this. What... before I let you go Michele, what, you know, specific action steps? So, I mean, obviously go to Sovereignty Coalition. Where can people continue to get good information? That's a really hard part right now. I mean, you're the only one I know of that went over there on the ground, watched it firsthand and came back and gave us truth. How are you getting good information right now? What can we recommend people to do just to have good sources out there?

Michele Bachmann: 19:13

Well, the best source is the primary source and that is WHO.int , then you click on 76 World Health Assembly, you can read the 307 amendments for yourself. You can read the global pandemic treaty for yourself. You can watch all the sessions that I participated in. So it's all there, WHO.int , click on 76 World Health Assembly. But the main thing that we need to know is that there won't be a vote in the US Congress over this. There won't be a vote in the Senate. This won't be a treaty that comes before the Senate because the Biden administration doesn't want it to. So unless we get Republican senators and Republican House members to start standing up and demanding some answers, nothing is going to happen. So if any of your listeners, no members of the House and no members of the Senate, they've got to get their attention, now. This is an urgency issue, we have a very short window of opportunity. And they have got to demand answers from the Biden administration. This is a press release that was released regarding the European Union and WHO, next week, we could have a press release from the Biden administration, saying that the United States is now going to have our QR code administered by the WHO. Well, God help us if that happens, because then our lives will be enforced to the who, and we won't be going to Congress for results. So we've got to wake up, we've got to realize that our freedoms are at risk, and we have to let our voice be known to our public officials.

Rick Green: 20:58

Amen. Well, I think one of the most shocking things was I had Frank Gaffney on a couple of weeks ago, and we were talking about the fact that the Senate voted to not do their job under the Constitution and require an actual vote on this thing and treat it as a treaty as it actually is. And you just said, you know, basically just wash their hands of it. And Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Michelle, thank you. Thank you. Thank you, for being just a warrior for truth and for being true salt and light. We appreciate you so much. Thank you for taking time to come on and keep us informed about this.

Michele Bachmann: 21:27

Always a pleasure. We don't fear we don't despair, but we do act. Thanks, Rick!

Rick Green: 21:33

Absolutely. Stay with us, folks. We'll be right back with David and Tim Barton.

Tim Barton: 21:43

Hey, guys, we want to let you know about a new resource we have at WallBuilders called The American Story. For so many years, people have asked us to do a history book to help tell more of the story that’s just not known or not told today. And we would say very providentially in the midst of all of the new attacks coming out against America, whether it be from things like the 1619 project that say America is evil, and everything in America was built off slavery, which is certainly not true or things, like even the Black Lives Matter movement, the organization itself, not out the statement Black Lives Matter, but the organization that says we’re against everything that America was built on, and this is part of the Marxist ideology. There’s so many things attacking America. Well, is America worth defending? What is the true story of America? We actually have written and told that story starting with Christopher Columbus, going roughly through Abraham Lincoln, we tell the story of America not as the story of a perfect nation of a perfect people. But the story of how God used these imperfect people and did great things through this nation. It’s a story you want to check out, wallbuilders.com, The American Story.

Rick Green: 22:42

We're back here on WallBuilders. Thanks for staying with us. Back with David and Tim Barton. Thanks to Michelle Bachmann for joining us and obviously for going over there guys, and even taking the time to cover this thing because so few people are talking about it. We've of course, had Frank Gaffney on and talked about it here on WallBuilders. But most news outlets are just shying away from this huge subject, like you said, temp, pandemic, health, you know, pandemic, whatever you want to call it has become a subjective term. And we want to be careful who makes that definition.

David Barton: 23:13

You know, one of the important things to do now is to do what Michelle was talking about. And that's educate, because most legislators, she pointed out, they really don't know what's in this or what's happened with it, or what it could mean, she was there for all of it, the legislators weren't, and I can understand them not being there. But at the same time, they've got to know. And I think one of the easier places to start that is at the state legislative level, if you get state starting to push back against the feds, the states will contact their own federal congressman, it's easier to have influence at the states and we are seeing states now really step up, whether it be with ESG, it's the states that are taking the steps to stop ESG, it's the states that are taking the steps to stop central digital bank currency. So the state is a good place to start. And right now, the states are willing to stand up for sovereignty and freedom, in a way that we can't get done at the Federal Congress because of the way so split up. So this is a good one to inform your state legislators about, actually just send them a link of this program, let them hear what Michelle says. And so just getting that information, they can start raising the ruckus in the right way that will get the attention that needs to be there to help get this thing under control.

Tim Barton: 24:18

And as Michelle pointed out, it should be very concerning when there's 194 nations and nobody is against this. That is super bizarre, which certainly anytime we look at some of these nations that are part of, whether it be the UN or World Health Organization. You know, the UN is a great example, where you look at some of these nations that are on like the Human Rights Commissions, human rights committees, and they are some of the worst violators of human rights. We know on some level a lot of this is a game, a lot of this is propaganda. We know China, we know Russia, some of these nations, they're not going to follow any orders from the World Health Organization they don't want to, and yet this is something that certainly should be a concern for us in America, because we know if we have the wrong kind of leaders, somebody where it was different under President Trump, right? Where he says, hey, we're not doing that game. We're not funding you guys. We're not playing in this dumb game anymore. As opposed to, if you have a leader like President Biden, who is going to say, guys, we just have to do what we're told. And it's for the good of the people that we're going to close your business and shut you down. This is a dangerous place to be in and acquiesce, if we don't have the right kind of leaders. And certainly start by contacting your local officials or state legislators, let them know what's going on. And tell them we need to take a stand right now. And certainly we need Congress to take a stand. This is where we continue to see under the Biden administration examples of why elections matter and why we have to get involved in the process. We can't sit on the sidelines and think it's rigged, it doesn't matter, no, we have to get involved. We have to be responsible, do our duty. And part of our duty right now starts with contacting our state elected officials.

Rick Green: 25:53

Absolutely. Tim involvement, action, prayer, all of it. We got to do all of it and we're up against some major forces of evil. I mean, that's just the way to describe this. And so it's no time to sit on the sidelines. And as you said, no, time to check out and say, oh it's... you know whatever excuses people might want to use, this is the time to lean in, be more involved, being even more prayer, but also taking more action, and frankly, giving more of our lives, fortunes and sacred honor. It's worth it. We're doing this for our children and our grandchildren. And we're doing it to honor God with what he's given us. We're being good stewards, with this talent of freedom that we've been given, not burying it, not being lazy, not being wicked, but being a good and faithful servant. Thanks so much for listening. You've been listening to WallBuilders.