Rick Green: 0:11

Welcome to the intersection of faith and the culture. It's WallBuilders. We're taking on the hot topics of the day from a biblical, historical and constitutional perspective. I'm Rick Green, America's constitution coach and a former Texas legislator here with David and Tim Barton. David, of course, America's premier historian and our founder at WallBuilders. Tim Barton, national speaker and pastor and president of WallBuilders. You can find out more about all three of us at our website WallBuilders.com . Check out WallBuilders.com today, and I actually... I say I'm here with David and Tim, I actually have an interview that we're going to do out on the Patriot Academy campus. And so actually, if you hear some gunshots in the background, it's because we're having a very first constitutional defense course. It's taking place here on the Patriot Academy campus. We had our groundbreaking just a couple of days ago, and just an incredible, incredible time. And right before the groundbreaking, I had the chance to sit down with Mark Meckler of Convention of States and also of the rally that's going to happen at the Texas capitol, this coming Saturday, How Many More and he's the one organizing that. We're going to talk to him a little bit about that as well. But I do want to invite you to come out and join us a Patriot Academy. The campus is in Fredericksburg, Texas. The groundbreaking was absolutely phenomenal. And we're already having the Constitutional Defense courses and you can be a part of that. So check that out of PatriotAcademy.com . Going to take a quick break. When we come back, we'll be with Mark Meckler from ConventionOfStates.com .

Mark Meckler: 1:30

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Rick Green: 2:38

Welcome back, thanks for staying with us. I am excited because my buddy Mark Meckler is back in the house. Mark so good to be with you. And we never get to do this in person like looking at each other. We're usually on the phone you're calling the studio, but we're together in Fredericksburg, Texas and man Thanks for coming on the program again.

Mark Meckler: 2:53

Yeah, I mean the reason we don't get to do it in person is because our wives prohibit us from being alone

Rick Green: 2:58

Trouble's coming man, that we're going to come up together... with some crazy idea

Mark Meckler: 3:01

So if you're listening to this don't mention this to Patty or Kara.

Rick Green: 3:04

Yeah, we'll be in trouble. Yeah, yeah.

Mark Meckler: 3:05

We definitely... That won't be unusual but we will be in trouble. So at least, at least, well I don't know what.

Rick Green: 3:08

But, you know if you are listening to this Patty or Kara, you'll know about whatever crazy idea Mark and I come up with at the same time the rest of the world does so that's... something... At least what. At least we're going to get in big trouble together. That's right. That's right. We have so much going on right now, man. Convention of States moving all over the country. Big votes happening right now, big movement, people joining every day. Huge class here with us at the Patriot Academy campus. In fact, Convention of States is the first class at the Patriot Academy campus. They've been shooting for two days, and Mark and I, yes, we got to shoot muskets. We had muskets on the morning...

Mark Meckler: 3:42

We did. Actual real muskets. Yeah, that was cool.

Rick Green: 3:45

That was, that was very cool.

Mark Meckler: 3:46

Except for, yeah, what actually happened.

Rick Green: 3:48

Yeah, yeah, like one shot. One fired and one didn't.

Mark Meckler: 3:51

Yeah so it was actually, you know, so it's the anniversary of the shot heard around the world. And we had three of us lined up with muskets. Two muskets and what's the other thing called? A blunderbuss, a blunderbuss.

Rick Green: 4:00

Yeah, blunderbuss.

Mark Meckler: 4:02

Okay, so three of us line up, and the count, and we shoot and then there was a shot heard around the world. Not

Rick Green: 4:08

I'm just glad it was my gun. I'm just glad mine three shots. fired, I, you know... No, this was actually, you know, a lot of people probably this week or last week. This is airing a week later, but they won't know. They didn't know that it was the anniversary, as you said of the shot heard around the world. That's the beginning of the American Revolution in 1775. April 19. Everybody knows Paul Revere's ride. Well, that was midnight before it was the next morning at Lexington pastor Jonas Clark, Captain John Parker. And of course Mark your favorite, Levi Preston

Mark Meckler: 4:34

Levi Preston was there, so it was very cool. It's been a bucket list of mine to fire and actual musket, you know, it's complicated. You watch the guy set it up, your buddy set it up, and you got to muzzle load it, you got black powder you got to put in, and then what he said is the reason that it didn't go off is because you know, sometimes Rick talks a little bit much. And he said by the time it was done, he said, you

Rick Green: 4:56

Sometimes? know, it's just the powder got wet. The air was moist. Little bit too long of a speech, I had to tell the whole story of the shot heard around the world, because we had all these people standing there on the range, you know, and it was... They were there for the first shot on the Patriot Academy campus to be on the anniversary of the shot heard around the world. Not quite the same time because the... that shot was like five o'clock in the morning. And you know me, Mark, I'm not getting up at five o'clock for anything.

Mark Meckler: 5:21

Yeah well, and by the way, later that night you haven't heard this story, yet. But I was up on stage with your son Reagan and his beautiful new wife Faith, and we're talking about our intern program. And we had it until about 7:00 and at

about 7: 5:32

30 I [was] starting to close it out. And I said, I looked at Reagan and I said, I half an hour over in honor your dad because he couldn't be here, tonight.

Rick Green: 5:43

You took care of the extra long winded, but nobody was shooting a musket after that, so it was okay. Anyway, we're at... Mark and I are having a great time. And the Patriot Academy campus is just exciting. All these folks on the ranges getting some good handgun defense training, constitution training, all that good stuff. And so we're having a blast, but we want to update folks on some big things that are happening right now. And this coming Saturday, this is the one that's most time sensitive. This coming Saturday, at the Texas capitol. It's vital this happens at the Texas Capitol because Texas has an opportunity to do something that the feds should be doing and aren't. Texas can close the border, Texas can prevent this crossing of the border. Texas can repel an invasion. So Mark, the rally is at the Capitol on the steps of the Capitol. Tell us about the time, people that can come, what they can do when they come to the rally. And what we're actually rallying for, the legislation that we're talking about as well. Here we are, yeah.

Mark Meckler: Yeah, so it's 1: 6:32

00 PM to 4:00 PM, the 29th. That's a Saturday. We don't normally do stuff like this on a Saturday. We did because we heard from the grassroots, they all wanted to come. And by the way, not just from all over Texas, but from all over the country. And the reason people want to come is because we're all asking ourselves the same question, which is, how many more? How many more young girls, young boys have to be sold into slavery. And we talked about the

Mark Meckler: 6:52

How many more women are going to be raped, making the journey to the United States. You're talking, the sex trade and sex trafficking, all this stuff. And I think that actually sanitizes it. We have full blown modern day slavery going on in the United States of America. So we can be proud of numbers are all over the board. But the lowest one I've heard is ourselves as a nation. We fought the Civil War, we outlawed slavery. But here we are today. fully 1/3 of women, young women, older women, who come across the border are raped or sexually assaulted along the way. How many more are we going to allow that to happen to? And fentanyl deaths. We have the scourge of fentanyl polluting our country. Right now over 70,000 people died last year of fentanyl overdose or poisoning. That's one every seven minutes, Rick. It's destroying the fabric of our society. Number one killer of adults between 18 and 45. Number one. I mean it's just absolutely incredible. And so the question is, how many more people have to die of fentanyl poisoning or overdose? And look the answer is, if we're going to rely on the federal government to fix it, then a lot more. And so a few months ago, I had some friends come to me and they said, Mark, what can we do? Can

Rick Green: 8:07

Well let me ask you this before we get to solutions? we do anything? This is so bad, Mark, that Democrat elected officials on the border in Texas have been switching to Republican, because they're so frustrated that the Democrat... the White House basically, the people that could stop this right now are not doing it. It's not that... We're not just complaining because a Democrat's in office or a president's in office that we don't like. We're talking about a real world situation that people are saying, forget the politics, forget which party, Lives are at stake here. And you see that in these party switches because that tells you right there. They're willing to do something that probably ends their political career, but they're doing it because they see the evil that's happening,

Mark Meckler: 8:44

Yeah, because what it is and we should call what it is, and I'm afraid that we always... We get the wrong narrative around this. We say, oh, we got an illegal immigration problem. And look, man, I'm strong against illegal immigration, but it's much bigger than that. I just want to say it as a Christian from my heart. We have a humanitarian crisis. And what we've got going on is I described the Fentanyl crisis and I've talked to some of the moms and dads and brothers and sisters who have lost people to the scourge of fentanyl, Virginia Krieger's kind of famous in this arena. She lost a kid to fentanyl overdose, her daughter, talked to her this week. She's losing a son to it. He overdosed and he has drug problems. It was laced in his drugs. So we're seeing this in families, and the question is like, is that okay? Are we okay with that as... How about as a Christian? Can you just go well, you know...

Rick Green: 9:28

Can you really just slough this off and say that's somebody else's problem. I don't... yeah.

Mark Meckler: 9:31

Or, you know, think... I want you to think about young children literally grabbed from their families and Like we're going to wait a couple of years and that many sold into sexual slavery. And that's going on, and I promise you, this is going on in your city, right? It's not at border problem. It's not a Texas problem. Wherever you live, if you live in the Des Moines, if you live in upstate New York, this is going on in your city and the question is, as a Christian, as a believer, how do you feel about that? Are you okay with that? Does that make your heart ache? Do you feel like you need to do some, because that's what happened to me, Rick. I knew what was going on. I honestly didn't know how bad it was. And I just felt like, somebody said, well, in a couple of years, you know, there'll be a new administration, hopefully, and then we can fix this. more children be raped, that many more... Oh, yeah, That's exactly, like I get choked up thinking about it, because that's what I thought to myself. Am I just going to sit back for two years? Am I okay, saying not probably another 140,000 lives, American lives lost to fentanyl? Was I Okay? How many more kids? Like if I want to write the number down on a piece of paper? How many more kids do I think it's okay to have sold into sexual slavery? I mean, there's only one number in the number is zero.

Rick Green: 10:37

It should be zero. And Mark I don't... I hate to digress because... but man when we say sex slavery, we need to be clear. Slavery was evil. Sex slavery is 10 times, 10,000 times worse. I mean, and slavery was awful. And I... but you're talking about children or grown adults that are still trapped in it. In the most vile situation you can possibly imagine. This is not like, you know, your images of the movie Pretty Woman. And what prostitution is. This is 30, 40, 50 partners a day, they are abused to the point of... it is so... I, we can't describe it on radio. It is so evil and awful. Slavery is not a disgusting enough term for what these people are going through. And every day more of them are being put into that because of our border policies.

Mark Meckler: 11:23

Well and I would say, I'm going to make this very personal for myself, because of me, because I haven't done anything about it. What have I done? What am I had demanded be done? What am I willing to put on the line to try to stop this? There are heroes out there, guys like Jaco Booyens who are actually out there doing the work and other people that are...

Unknown: 11:40

Victor Marx.

Mark Meckler: 11:40

Yeah. So there's a bunch of them. But a bunch meaning a handful. And so the question is, what am I doing about it? And the answer is, well, I'm living my life. And I'm saying I got other stuff that I'm dealing with. And it's not that I'm not busy. It's not that I'm not running a big organization. And I could say, well, that's not my thing. But then again, I got to go. And I got to ask myself a question as a Christian, how many kids? Like, what's the number that I'm willing to write down? Zero.

Rick Green: 12:04

Silence in the face of evil is evil itself. Dietrich Bonhoeffer fits right here big time, right? Because by not doing anything, you essentially allow for it to go on. Man, I sit in your face, bro, I know that I'm glad we're not just on the phone, because I can see the pain in your eyes and why you were motivated to do this and to raise the banner. I mean, that's the thing. People don't know what to do. Right? They... when they hear us talking about this, they're going okay, where's the banner to rally around? Well, that's exactly what you're doing this Saturday.

Mark Meckler: 12:31

Yeah, so that's the point. You know, Rick, I'm not an expert at a lot of things. But there is something I'm an expert at. And it's, I've had the privilege of being at the forefront of two movements in my lifetime, so the Tea Party movement, I know what that looked like, I know what it felt like I know where it comes from.

Rick Green: 12:45

And for our listeners that don't know, Mark helped found the Tea Party all the way back when you saw that very beginning in April of 2009, right? Of '09 and when it grew and exploded, Mark was the guy shepherding that.

Mark Meckler: 12:57

So, I was one of them. And so I know what that feels like. And same with Convention of States, like there's millions of people involved. I know what that feels like. And I've studied movements over the last 10 or 15 years. And here's what I can tell you about a movement, it starts not because somebody starts it, it starts because it exists in the hearts and mind of the people, already. People are thinking about it. So I know you're out there, you're listening. You're like, yeah, I hate this stuff. I mean, what can we do about it? I don't know what to do about it. So people are thinking about it. It's on their hearts. And then they're frustrated. That's a necessary component, because they're doing exactly what you said. Like, I know, it's really bad, Rick and Mark. So what? What do we do? I don't know what to do. A new president, is that the solution? So people are... have all this pent up frustration like in a pressure cooker. This is where that things change, where a movement really starts.

Rick Green: 13:43

When the pressure gets high enough.

Mark Meckler: 13:44

Pressure gets high enough. And then there's a moment. There has to be a pivot moment. Something has to happen.

Rick Green: 13:50

Yeah, so like a master radio host, I'm going to build the pressure here and say the moment, you're not going to find out about until we come back from the break. So stay with us, folks. We'll be right back. Have you noticed the vacuum of leadership in America? We're looking around for leaders of principle to step up and too often, no one is there. God is raising up a generation of young leaders with a passion for impacting the world around them. They're crying out for the mentorship and leadership training they need. Patriot Academy was created to meet that need. Patriot Academy graduates now serve in state capitals around America in the halls of Congress and business, in the film industry, in the pulpit and every area of the culture. They're leading effectively and impacting the world around them. Patriot Academy is now expanding across the nation and now's your chance to experience this life changing week that trains champions to change the world, visit PatriotAcademy.com for dates and locations. Our core program is still for young leaders 16 to 25 years old, but we also now have a citizen track for adults. So visit the website today to learn more. Help us fill the void of leadership and America. Join us in Training Champions to change the world at PatriotAcademy.com . Welcome back. Thanks for staying with us. Mark Meckler, our guest today. We've been talking about the... in fact crisis isn't fair enough. Humanitarian crisis? I don't know if their words ugly enough to describe what's happening at the border. And before we went to the break, Mark, talking about the... just the pressure that's been building, the emotional pressure, the economic pressure, the just the humanitarian pressure, and what is that relief valve, Now? What can we do? The frustration that everybody's feeling. If they are to that point where they're saying, okay, now I'm frustrated enough, we can have a breakthrough, there's something we can do. What is that thing we can do?

Mark Meckler: 15:36

Okay, so here's what we have to do is the elected officials have to be forced to respond to that pressure. And we know right now, Washington, DC is not going to do it. In Texas, we have the longest contiguous border in the United States with Mexico, it's almost 1300 miles. I think it's about a couple hundred miles short of that, but about 1300 miles. We can do something here in Texas. We have in the United States Constitution, the invasion clause, Article One, Section 10, subsection three, we have the authority to repel an invasion as a state. This is an important distinction. You're going to hear people in the media, you might have friends who say, ah, Supreme Court already decided, US v Arizona, states cannot enforce immigration law. Like I think that was a bad decision, but...

Rick Green: 16:21

Right, and Scalia thought it was a bad decision too, lets just... bad... He has a great dissent on that. But anyway, go ahead.

Mark Meckler: 16:25

But that is the state of the law, right now, in the United States of America. So our job is to say, well okay, we know that. What can we do? According to Article One, Section 10, we can repel an invasion. We have a concurrent clause in the Texas Constitution, we can declare an invasion. And that gives the governor all sorts of powers. It gives the legislature all sorts of powers. And so what we're going to do, is we're going to gather at the Capitol. I'm hoping for tens of thousands of us, Rick, that's my vision, tens of thousands of people come in, and we're going to put the pressure on our legislature here in Texas and our governor here in Texas to do absolutely everything they legally can. That includes declaring an invasion, seizing assets of the cartels, naming the cartels as international terrorist organizations, cracking down on the financial technology companies that allow all this monetary transfer, making trespassing a third degree felony, giving our local law... And really importantly, there's a bill pending right now, been introduced by Representative Matt Schaefer, HB 20. That creates the Texas border protection unit.

Rick Green: 17:25

So we're not asking for them to start with something, we're saying do what Schaefer's filed right now. The bill is sitting there, it's ready to be done. Yeah, it's already there, right?

Mark Meckler: 17:31

It's sitting there. It's already been heard The Ranchers on our border, Rick, the cartels in committee. It hasn't been voted out of committee yet. So come to them and they say you can either cooperate with us, we're telling them get this done. One of the things I love about HB 20 [it] creates this independent Texas border protection unit, and it's under the control of the governor. And I think this is really important. Look, and I haven't always been the biggest fan of the governor. But it's for me, it's never a personal thing. I want to politician [to] do the right thing. And then I'm going to love on you for doing it right. So I want Governor Abbott to step up and be the hero here. He's done some stuff, I would say it's not enough stuff, step up, be the hero. He will then be responsible, because he appoints the head of that border protection unit. And so that person is accountable to him, instead of DPS, Department of Public Safety. I don't trust those guys. I don't like those guys. So I want Abbott to be the guy who's responsible for this. He's our chief executive here in Texas. And he can repel the invasion. Again, remember, not enforcing immigration law. This is not about illegal immigrants. Like I'm against illegal immigration. But this is about repelling an invasion. And people say, protect us from imminent danger. This is not imminent danger. This is harm taking place right now. and we'll pay you or we'll just kill you. Right? And the ranchers go to the government, hey, what can you do? The government is like, there's nothing we can do. Well, you live on a remote ranch in South Texas, when the cartel shows up, you know, call us you'll be dead by the time we get here. Right?

Rick Green: 18:53

It's too late. No, and you are just to reiterate. I mean, this is there's strong constitutional foundations for this, as you were saying. You know, if the government, if the federal government would do what it's supposed to do under Article four, section four, where they're supposed to repel the invasion, wouldn't be here, right? Wouldn't have to do this, what you know needs to be done, but since they're not doing that, that's where article one section 10 kicks in. And absolutely, we're in that situation. And like you said, I mean, we're not in imminent danger. It's not like we're trying to hurry and get this done before the invasion. It's happening already. I mean, it's... there's got to be action taken right now. And this legislation is sitting there ready to be done. What would, you know, when people come on Saturday, what do you want the legislators to... I mean, obviously, Governor Abbott, as well, to hear what happens here and to end to be moved by this and know, listen, you can be a hero to the whole nation if you'll just do what the Constitution gives you the power to do. What is the legislature need to hear as well?

Mark Meckler: 19:41

I think what they need to see is that it's a movement and this is why I talked about movement politics. They need to understand, it's not just some people showing up, have a good time. We will have a good time. I'm going to tell you that Ted Nugent is going to be there.

Rick Green: 19:51

You cannot have an event with Ted Nugent and not have a good time, yeah.

Mark Meckler: 19:54

That's right, so he's going to... he's actually going to play his iconic version of the national anthem. Always a great way to open an event. We've got Mark Morgan is going to be their, former acting commissioner Border Patrol. Jason Jones, one of the just an absolute warrior is covering what's going on the border. Laura Logan's going to speak. So there's a whole bunch of people who know what's going on the border. So the the goal of two things. One is education. I want people to hear at this rally, it's going to be live streamed on Epoch Times, Newsmax is likely to be there. Real America's Voice is going to be there. So this is going to be spread all over the country. So we..

Rick Green: 20:28

They'll learn as they're... even as they're listening to the rally. They're going to learn about what's happening.

Mark Meckler: 20:33

And then I hope what's happening to the legislature is the same thing that's happening in the people in attendance, they're going to get angry, and they're going to feel pain. Right? Because you cannot look at this closely and not feel the pain. I thought I knew what was going on in the border. In the last 90 days, I've been educated. I mean, really, the wool's been pulled back from my eyes. It's just I can't face it without trying to do something. So people are going to come, that's going to create the pressure mechanism to make sure that the Texas legislature does everything they can do, the governor does everything he can do. And you and me, I'm talking to all of you do, what you can do. And what you can do, I'm not asking you for that much. I'm asking you come to Texas. Come to the Capitol. We'll raise the money, we'll organize the thing, we'll put it on. We'll put the infrastructure in place, but you have to show up. If you don't show up, you're opting out.

Rick Green: 21:24

Yeah, and you're not doing the very thing the declaration demands of us. If we want life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, we have to have the book ends. The book ends are, right, before that it says we hold these truths. There has to be truth. The other side of that is consent of the governed. Governments power comes from the consent of the governed. What do you do when you show up at a rally? You're giving or refusing your consent, you're demanding your politicians, your elected officials, your representatives to do the right thing. You're demanding that they follow what we the people want. And they listen, when they... When these kind of numbers that we're going to have on Saturday show up, they listen, they pay attention, but we need you folks from all over the nation to join us. We have listeners in every state across the nation. And by the way, you can hear that rain out there, so Mark and I are sitting in here doing the radio show while all of our friends are out on the range getting drenched, right now. So this is kind of fun. Anyway, don't forget to go... oh, in fact, the website. What's the website where they can go to get the details?

Mark Meckler: 22:11

HowManyMore.com . It's got all the details, and register. Let us know you're coming, because then you'll get regular notices from us about everything that's going on, run of show, parking, all that kind of stuff. So go to HowManyMore.com . Find out more about it. Spread it around to your friends, look, I know there are thousands and thousands of people listening to this show right now. Imagine if each of you send that website to 50 friends. Send it to your whole email list. Let's blanket the nation with this.

Rick Green: 22:36

HowManyMore.com . HowManyMore.com . And, it is important to go there... Because when you get to the Capitol, you need to know where to go, where to park, where to... you know, how to get to the right spot to, so HowManyMore.com and please do exactly what Mark said. Be a force multiplier. And if you're coming up with some excuse why you can't come, then at least get the link and send it out to 10, 15, 20, 100 of your friends. Share it on social media. Let's make this a huge event that everybody's talking about. And that the legislators feel the pressure, that pressure cooker, in fact we used to say, Mark, all the time, they never seem to see the light until they feel the heat. Well, here's the chance for them to feel the heat, right? Mark Meckler, God bless you, man. Thank you so much for all that you're doing. Next time we'll talk about Convention of States and where we are in a lot of these states. But bless you for what you're doing. And I'm looking forward to seeing you Saturday at the rally.

Mark Meckler: 23:18

Thanks for having me.

Rick Green: 23:19

I really appreciate Mark Meckler and the opportunity to visit about Convention of States and about, today, mostly the border rally and how important it is for us to show up and be there at the Capitol, be a part of this, let your voice be heard. This is an important, important issue as Mark was explaining. We are allowing for a lot of pain, a lot of heartache that is unnecessary. We're allowing for things to happen to our fellow man. We're allowing things to happen to children. We're allowing things to happen to our country because of our silence. And as we said, silence in the face of evil is evil itself. Bonhoeffer was right about that. And it certainly applies in this situation. And so with the tremendous amount of damage that's been done, we should be motivated to do something, we should want to be a part of the solution. Texas has an opportunity to be a part of that solution. Texas has an opportunity to lead here. And this is a chance to let our legislators and our governor know, in Texas, do your job under the Constitution. Absolutely 100% it's constitutional for states to seal the border to repel an invasion. There's an imminent danger, as Mark said, it's not even imminent, it's already happening. It's not that it's that close to happening. It's not it's going to happen next week. It's already happening and it has been happening. So something has got to be done. And states have the power to do that under Article One section 10. It's a responsibility that they can take on and implement whenever article four, section four is ignored by the federal government, which is what has happened in this case. And what's happening is criminal. It's destructive to the nation, and we need to do something about it. And so we're encouraging Texas to do that, to take that step. You know, Texas used to be a leader on these kinds of issues. Texas used to be willing to step out and not... instead of Following everybody else, like we're hopefully going to do with school choice, now that you've got all these states that have passed school choice, Texas, may finally do that in the next couple of weeks. I'm praying that they do. That's why I ran for the legislature the first time. All those years ago, more than two decades ago, aging myself here, but school choice was my number one issue because it's a principle issue. It's erring on the side of freedom. It's letting parents make the decision, not a bureaucrat. Its funding children and their education, not buildings and systems. So that's a huge issue. Texas should have been leaning on that a long time ago. And now that Arkansas and Iowa and Florida and all these other states have done it, it looks like Texas will finally do that. But on the border issue. I mean, it's either us or Arizona. And at this point with Kari Lake not being the governor of Arizona, at least not yet. Arizona is not going to be able to lead on this. Texas has to lead on the border issue. So I hope that you will join us at the border rally. I hope you'll study these things. Study the constitution so that you know what states can do and can't do. The whole thing with... even with gold and silver as legal tender. That's a big issue that we'll be talking about in the future and that Texas also has a chance to lead on. But we don't know these things if we're not studying God's word and we're not studying the Constitution, we're not studying these things, so that we know truth. So I encourage you, take our Biblical Citizenship in Modern America course. It's available for free. Go to BiblicalCitizens.com . You can sign up as a coach and you can host that class with your friends and family. Be a part of the solution. Be the catalyst for a restoration of biblical values and constitutional principles. Come down to Fredericksburg, Texas to the Patriot Academy campus and experience the Patriot Experience. Experienced the opportunity to study the Constitution, handgun defense classes, all kinds of great things. Check that out of PatriotAcademy.com , today. Thanks so much for listening. You've been listening to WallBuilders.