Rick Green: 0:12

Welcome back to the WallBuilders show. Thanks for staying with us. It's been way too long. But Daniel Horowitz is back in the house, Daniel, so good to hear your voice off the air and now on the air. Great to have you back, man.

Daniel Horowitz: 0:23

Yeah, it's unbelievable. I think we have to do this every week, just so we connect.

Rick Green: 0:27

No kidding. No kidding. I tell you what, everybody's gotten so busy lately. The good news is there's just, there's a massive number of people that are paying attention and listening, they want to hear more from you. They want to hear more from WallBuilders. They're hungry to learn truth. The bad news is that's made us so busy, we never get together anymore. So anyway, we're gonna change that and make sure we do more of it. But David and Tim definitely wanted to get you back on, talk about this, what this West Virginia Hospital was suggesting for unjabbed workers. I just... it's become a cult man. It's absolutely... you've called it that from the beginning. You've been a source of reason and logic, and just piercing through the insanity of this thing from the beginning. I cannot believe here we are three years later, still having to talk about so many of these things. But we have to prevent it from ever happening again. And so we need to bring attention to some of this insanity. Tell us what happened with this West Virginia Hospital that you were writing about?

Daniel Horowitz: 1:21

Sure, well, there's actually nothing unique about that other than they wanted to enforce the criminalization of human breathing through a yellow or gold star to indicate, oh, you don't have the poison clot shot, therefore, you need to wear the Chinese face diaper on your face. Here's the thing this began, this entire saga began in 2020, during when most states, not Texas, but most states were in legislative session. They allowed governors and mayors and then eventually to shunt that culture off to the so called private entities, to violate human rights in a way we never thought imaginable where we are going to criminalize your life, liberty and property, in its most basic sense, that you cannot walk in liberty, move around freely without taking a medical device or medical intervention to your body, on your body. It would be bad enough for a decent medical intervention, an okay medical intervention, but we knew from day one, and now we have more information on this policy issue than any issue we've ever studied, that is all pain and no gain, every last thing they did to us, yet even in the red states, we're now on the fourth legislative session since this happened. And we still barely, and in some states, have nothing in place legally to preclude this from ever happening again, while in hospitals, they are still mandating patients and workers get the shots and wear these face diapers. And in this case in Cabell hospital, Huntington, West Virginia, they had a inkling to enforce it with this yellow star. And let me just say this, aside from the sensitivity of the history there, you know, the yellow star was put on the lapel. This is put on your breathing holes, that we now know, even for a short period of time increases your CO2 levels, obviously doesn't work against pathogens. How is this okay? How do the policies not get updated to reflect the reality?

Rick Green: 3:27

Yeah, yeah, I mean, so many things you just said, have me, you know, speechless here. But I guess to start with, you're saying, even now, even now, they're still requiring this, after all the data, after the overwhelming evidence that neither are they safe or effective. And yet, they still are punishing people that do not go along with their narrative and do these things that are actually harmful to the individual. Even now, and we're talking February of 2023.

Unknown: 4:00

Yeah, is a cold, but... We know what they are about. But the problem is, our people clearly are not activated enough. And what happened was they pick the time when it was the most fear to do the most apparent infringement upon individual liberty, then the smartly... When they saw that balloon pop and people getting very agitated, they let it go on most people, but they still kept it on some people, and they still kept it on the books. So if you go in, in your home state, to this day, after everything we've been through, there is nothing precluding lockdown closing of churches, masking, vaccine mandates, all this stuff. And that would be bad enough if this was an anomaly, but now after everything we learned, it's not. They're planning more pathogens. They're planning more vaccines that act like pathogens. You know, just last week, it came to life that CDC has introduced ICD medical billing codes to a code for recalcitrant unvaccinated. You know, typically it's like a disease, that you know you have a, you know, migraines, chronic back pain, it is an ICD code. Here, there's no illness, but they're treating like an illness if you refuse to get a shot, they are trying to track people so they can create a medical apartheid. They have the RSV mRNA, flew... and flew mRNA shot coming out in a few months, expedited review from the FDA. What are we going to do with this? This is not over with. In most states, I would say every state, except for Florida, except for the Florida Governor, it was more like yeah, you know, kind of done with this iteration for now. It's not so deadly want to move on. Not that, whoa, it is illogical, immoral, illegal and inhumane for the government to ever do these things. And it must never be done. And that's why Steve Deace and I wrote our book, The Rise of the Fourth Reich, so that this never ever happens again, and the blueprint of what we need to do to ensure that.

Rick Green: 6:03

I, man, everything you're saying I agree with 100%. And also just the fact that the legislatures failed so miserably to respond. I totally expect tyrants to tyrant I expected governors to latch on to power unfortunately, Republican and Democrat alike, all of that. But I fully expected the legislatures to respond and say no, and to stop it. And the fact that they didn't just, it... the frustration level is through the roof. And it tells you how much work we have to do to turn the culture around for sure. But the whole, you know, situation at this point, it felt like, to me if you know, maybe like two months ago, that the tide was beginning to turn. And so I'm wondering if response to the new book you and Steve did... What are you gauging from the response? Do you feel like people are going, okay, yes, this is the blueprint to... We got to prevent this from ever happening again. We have to remember these things, we have to point out what they did and stop it. I mean, do you feel like there's a turn? Or does it feel like there's deaf ears out there, not just in the legislature but among the people?

Daniel Horowitz: 7:10

So you know what, this is an interesting window of opportunity. And that's why I'm so frantic about this, because on the one hand, this stuff has been repudiated. It's unpopular. Polling shows that, forget about the lockdowns and masks, but even the clot shots, I mean, unfortunately, the dead bodies are piling up so much, you can't miss it. Everyone now knows people who died from it. So we've never had a greater opportunity while the other side is not retreating, they're reloading. They're on to the next iterations of this. They tell us what they're going to do. And after everything they successfully did, I think we ought to pay attention to it. So the people have really turned, you know, this mass psychosis that we just couldn't figure out, it's over, you know, with the exception of kind of that, you know, maybe 20-25%, most left leaning part of the country. But the problem is that in terms of Republican elected officials, it's just not a thing. And some of it's because they think it's over, we moved on. And there's a lot of other issues to cover. But I mean, you can't walk away from this. And that is what is so bizarre, that in Texas, you'd think about something as immoral, is making a child go to school covering their breathing holes all day, that is still not taken off the books. I mean, that thing went on for months, in every red state, not a single red state that didn't. And again, Florida is the only one where the governor actually said that this can never happen again. The others just kind of quietly, you know, moved away from it. But they could bring that back at any moment. I mean, even just a basic bill like that, banning it in schools. And really, there should be criminal penalties under child abuse statutes for doing that. That has not been done yet. So we put out this blueprint, we have a mock Nuremberg trial. For everything that went on, we now know that they knew from day one, the shots were deadly, all their stuff was wrong. They did it anyway. And again, it would be bad enough if they were just taking these off the market, but they're not. They're going to have them annual shots. And then in a couple months, the mRNA flu... RSV shot. And I don't want to hear this nonsense of, oh, I'm a state legislator, I'm not a doctor or scientist, that that ship has sailed. There has never been a public policy issue that affected our life and liberty as much as this. And you've got to get on this. And I will say, if at this point people are not on to the vaccine industry and what they're doing to us, they are not pro life. This is the equivalent of forced abortions. This is the, you know, Pfizer and Moderna or the new Planned Parenthood. We now know that this kills people. We now know it affects every organ system. We now know it is associated with some degree of sterilization, of lower birth rates, there are huge, huge problems with it. And at its base, what we learn about mRNA is it's transhumanism. It codes your body and takes over your machinery to produce an uncontrolled amount of, in this case, spike protein, but whatever it is, in unlimited number of locations in your body for an unlimited period of time. That is a fact no one could argue. And I came out with the first Harvard study, really, that first year of the shot, it doesn't stay in your shoulder muscle. So when they come out with an RSV shot, even if it doesn't use a spike protein, there is nothing God created about your body, that it's okay to have yourself be coded for an unlimited quantity of whatever that protein is. Unlimited growth of your machinery has a name, [it's] called cancer. You know, and there's... you know, that's also a very big concern with the cancer signals, danger signals, safety signals off the chart. Rick, I don't know what's gonna take.

Rick Green: 11:04

Yeah, to wake them up, right?

Daniel Horowitz: 11:06

I know where, right.

Rick Green: 11:07

Yeah, exactly. And the good news is, you know, two, two and a half years ago, it was the opposite numbers, right? It was like maybe 20% of people, maybe, were listening to us and not writing us off as crazy. And now those numbers have completely flipped. But yet, even with all of that, you know, this story that you just wrote about, I mean, the fact that they would actually, I mean, first of all be so, you know, tone deaf, and historically ignorant, to put the gold star sticker on the person that isn't going to wear a mask and not be jabbed, unbelievable that they did this. And unfortunately, after y'all already had the book out, right? That would have been great to have in your book, you do point to some other examples that are just as bad, frankly. But the fact that this is still going on, that legislators still aren't putting a stop to it. And you asked what... I don't know what it's going to take. I mean, and that's what I was going to ask you, what does it take, like, at what point do we get... Because we've got a handful of champions, like representative Brian Harrison in Texas. I mean, he's been fantastic. He's pushing a lot of the things that we want to see pushed, but he's a freshman... I mean, he's well, now in his sophomore term. There's a handful of them out there, but not enough to actually get this stuff done, especially when you have governors like Greg Abbott that are not for it. They want to keep the power and all of that. You know, DeSantis seems to have broken through all of that. And I'm assuming, you know, that's going to serve him well, not only as governor, but if he decides to run run for president. But did you see any other governors that finally got on board with a lot of what he was doing and did it in their states?

Daniel Horowitz: 12:40

No, not a single one. Not one. I mean, that is what is very... It is shocking how we can emerge from this. And the reason why we invoke the Fourth Reich, and it's kind of a play off of Klaus Schwab the fourth industrial revolution. But it's the Third Reich plus the global aspect of it and the technology. That's what it is. You know, the gold star is just one image of it. But what was broadly established the last couple of years is this biomedical nationalism, this public health nationalism. That was the lead ship in the Third Reich Armada, where they said that your individual liberty is subsumed, and subservient to the public health goals. That was what they pushed.

Rick Green: 13:25

So the philosophy is extremely similar, the philosophie's lockstep.

Daniel Horowitz: 13:30

the philosophy is that you are a threat, unless you take an affirmative medical action to your body. That is not okay. And now only one governor's speaking to that. That is still around. I mean, we still have children... all these laws in the books of the states that say, you know, if you don't get a vaccine, you can't go to school. It doesn't make any sense, because what we've learned morally, legally and scientifically, and this is the thesis of the book, that it is never okay to say that person A cannot just live normal, inactively, right? It's not like he's doing an affirmative action for you. He has to take an affirmative action against his body to protect Person B. There's no such science because here's the deal- if it works, you go take it, it's great. So you know, there's no such thing as your mask doesn't protect you, but it protects me. your shot doesn't protect you, but it protects me. Garbage in, garbage out. There is no such thing. So the COVID shots are straight up poison. But you could have something that theoretically might be a good idea to take. Look, I believe it's great to get your vitamin D levels above 50. Mine is, okay. But I'm not going to force someone else to do that, because I'm confident in my, you know, level is that it will protect me from respiratory viruses. And if we are at the point where government could create a medical apartheid, which they're doing, denying kidney transplants, denying vital goods and services, denying public accommodation, and now they're... They want to... they have a biomedical security state, they're not getting rid of, monitoring you. And they're going to bring out a litany of this. Maderna has 15 More mRNAs in the pipeline. What's going to... and again, this would be a problem if the shots weren't deadly. If they were innocuous or even good, that government has the ability to do that to you. Let me ask you something, Rick? If government could force you, in order to function, to inject something that takes over your immune system into your body, or cover your breathing holes, name me something greater in magnitude that government cannot do?

Rick Green: 15:30

Ah, man, I mean, yeah, I mean, other than actually locking you up and doing the same thing, while also locking you up. Maybe would be the... even worse. But yeah, I mean, you're talking about your your very ability to breathe, your very ability to control, you know, the... what's going to go into your body. It's fundamental.

Daniel Horowitz: 15:58

How did we allow that to happen? But that was established. And that is still the legal precedent in most parts of the country, including the red states. And it's shocking how we can go through this, that we know so much more information about where this came from. And again, this was not an anomaly. All of the gain of function research, we now know, Pfizer is still engaging in it, DARPA is still engaging in it. They're producing all sorts of other things, they have. The mRNA technology, that's poison. I mean, our best estimate is that this killed at least 7.5 million people throughout the world. The shot, and the virus, too, by the way, was not natural, and that was created. And they blocked the treatment for it. And that was also part of the genocide. How do we just walk away? How do we walk away from this? And they tell us they're doing this again, they tell us this is the great reset. This is the new normal. And I don't know, I mean I'll be honest, that a bunch of legislators on the first one on the ground...

Rick Green: 16:59

I can read your mind here, Daniel, you're going to say... you know, and most of them, don't even want you to touch it. Stay with us folks, we're out of time. We got to take a quick break. We'll be right back. Daniel Horowitz is with us, here on WallBuilders.

Tim Barton: 17:17

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Rick Green: 18:16

We're back on WallBuilders, thanks for staying with us. Daniel Horowitz, our guest today. We're talking about the new book he wrote with Steve Deace, called The Rise of the Fourth Reich. Folks, this is how we prevent this COVID Fascism again. I really, really encourage you to get the book. Daniel, let's talk action steps. What do we do? What Can folks at home do to be a part of the solution and prevent this from happening again?

Daniel Horowitz: 18:39

Sure. I mean, obviously, the last chapter after the trial, we tell of the stories of how people were killed, from the shots, from the treatment in the hospitals, all this stuff, we have a list of action items, both at a state and federal level. So you know, don't feel like oh, man, you know, the... Biden's the president, we can't do some of the stuff. A lot of it you can do at a state level. You know, for example, if they absolve these manufacturers from liability, which is unbelievable how a state could fund it, mandated, endorse it distribute it, and then absolve them of liability. That's, I mean, quintessential fascism. And human experimentation, Josef Mengele times 100 all over the world. But you know, so the state can't really interfere with that. But what a state can do is say okay, but if you are exempt from liability, here's the deal, then the State Department of Health here cannot engage in distributing, recommending funding and endorsing any of these shots in the state. And we need a moratorium on mRNA. Again, we now know there's no shut off or modulator on that technology. It is an uncontrolled production in every corner of your body. The notion that Moderna had no products brought to market from 2012 to 2020. And then suddenly within two days in late January 2020, they concoct the vaccine, which of course they didn't. They had way before, which should tell you something. And then now on the backside of it, this, fifteen more mRNAs suddenly ready to go. This is not okay. I have to pinch myself to realize we are living through this. There's over 14,000 categories of maladies and injuries documented in CDC's own, there's pharmacovigilance that covers 60% of all medical billing codes around. I think there's 24,000 of them. You know, we have, according to CDC's V-safe, 7.7% Of all people[who] got the shot, experienced upfront clinical level injury that they had to seek medical attention. And that's just what people know of. This before we get into the subtle long term issues with cancers, diabetes, heart disease, autoimmune, and things like that. We have over 3,000 case studies. We have over 1,500 academic studies, peer reviewed, covering every organ system of the body. There has never been more information on subject. This is not experimental anymore. The only thing experimental is what it does 5-10 years down the road. But, what we know it already does is mind-blowing. Again, Michigan State University, they have a study out extrapolating, they believe, after the first year of the vaccine in the United States, 278,000 people were killed. If you extrapolate the doses at the time, to the death per dose, and you do it globally, where there's 13.24 billion doses administered. That'd be 7.5 billion vaccine deaths throughout the world. And again, this is the opening bid. The first two years, Fauci famously said in 1999, about an HIV vaccine, that you could have a perfect vaccine that appears good and 10-12 years from now, all hell breaks loose. But what happens when all hell breaks loose immediately? What does that portend for the next 10 years? And again, this would be if they'd be done. They're not done. They're not done with the surveillance. They're not done with the mandate. They're not done with experimentation. This was the great reset. How Republicans could just walk away from this issue, like it never happened and isn't still happening? And they don't have more in the pipeline. I think it's something spiritual.

Rick Green: 22:31

Well, I can tell you how, Daniel, it's because you... don't worry. The Center for Demented Confusion will take care of us. I mean, the CDC just put out a warning on some eyedrops, because one person died. I mean, if one person dies, and if and a handful are injured, they're going to jump in and prevent something from going to the market. Right? I mean, surely, if something kills, you know, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, injures millions, surely they would step in and say, you know we ought to put a moratorium on this and surely they would do that, right?

Daniel Horowitz: 23:01

You know, I was just reading from the New York Post, Honda issued a do not drive warning because... and they do this all the time. There's these airbag issues. And you know, you even wonder how many times it really is a big deal. But there's these airbag inflaters that could explode, they said. And they believe that there might have been 17 deaths in the US and they were pulled. 17!

Rick Green: 23:26

17 gets a product recall, when 17,000 in the VAERS system doesn't get a recall. And as you've told me before, Daniel, it's underreported by a factor of 26 or so. So you know, hundreds of thousdands of deaths that have actually occurred. Man, I hate to cut you off, brother, but out of time, and really appreciate you coming on the program. That's Daniel Horowitz. I really encourage you to follow Daniel and Conservative Review. Get that full article. We'll have a link today to it and we're going to get him back, and have more time with him, because there's just so much to cover. And he has done an incredible job of digging deep into these things. Everyone, everyone needs to read this book. I mean, this is... it's the only way we're going to stop this from happening again. I mean, all throughout the COVID Fascism, we we talked about the violations of the Constitution, we talked about the violations of biblical principles, the violations of even authority for who should make the decisions and whether or not your church opens whether or not your business opens, your family decisions, the health decisions for yourself and your family. I mean, there were so many violations of basic American principles and basic biblical principles here. And there has to be a reckoning. There has to be a Nuremberg Trial type investigation and situation so that we prevent this from ever happening again. So thankfully, these guys have done this book and documented this. A lot of the interviews, the people that they're interviewing, the people that they're talking about. These are people that we know, these are people that we've had on the program. These are people that have been, you know, at the forefront of this. Whether it's the the medical kidnapping of baby Cyrus in Idaho from our friends, you know, the Rodriguez family, we've known for well over a decade, a decade and a half, I think at this point their kids all have gone to Patriot Academy, you know that whole situation. We were very close to and very involved with, you know, the... several of the people, from the military that they're dealing with, the attorneys like Matt Staver and others that they're talking about in the book, frequent guest on this program. So highly recommend you get the book, it's called The Rise of the Fourth Reich, confronting COVID Fascism with a new Nuremberg Trial So this Never Happens Again. Our friends, Steve Deace and Daniel Horowitz are the authors. It's a book, not only that you should read, but that you should recommend. The more people that read this book, the better chance we have of preventing this from ever happening again. And the best way, the best way to follow up with that and for you to be someone that's on the frontlines preventing this from happening again, is to be a Constitution Coach, to teach the principles in your home, in your living room, at your church, you know, to your friends, your family, people in your community. The more people that know the truth, the better we can dispel the lies. And so become a Constitution Coach today, it's one of the best action steps you can take ConstitutionCoach.com or PatriotAcademy.com . Or if you want to just go through the biblical citizenship course, go straight to WallBuilders.com you can get the course there. There are so many ways for you to get educated, equipped, inspired, so many ways you can learn the truth and then stand for that truth, speak that truth, defend that truth and make sure that you're spreading that truth to your friends and family and neighbors. Thanks so much for listening today. You've been listening to WallBuilders.